Akumakage Posted June 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 12 hours ago, lopenator said: Ok guys I want to say thank you very much for your guidance and kindness. It was a good experience, and thank you again for your time. I understand that I have to make much proper soldering. I always got a working one, the second console. I will be very gentle and sighted for this one. About the other, the first console I have one question left : can I repair the D0 fried line with wires ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akumakage Posted June 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 minute ago, lopenator said: you removed the header? I only recommended you reflowed the points because it could have been the cause of your console not working. why not rebuild the lpc and try again The D0 line is dead. I should solve one problem at a time. Don't you think ? I will do that on the second console. The first didn't boot, even like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylverReZ Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 40 minutes ago, Akumakage said: The D0 line is dead. I should solve one problem at a time. Don't you think ? I will do that on the second console. The first didn't boot, even like that. Repair the D0 trace as shown here by the red lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akumakage Posted June 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, SylverReZ said: Repair the D0 trace as shown here by the red lines. Ok super But...ahem...where is that line on a 1.6 revision ? I m searching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akumakage Posted June 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, SylverReZ said: Repair the D0 trace as shown here by the red lines. What about that place ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylverReZ Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 51 minutes ago, Akumakage said: What about that place ? Fix the traces with wire is what I'm saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylverReZ Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 59 minutes ago, Akumakage said: Ok super But...ahem...where is that line on a 1.6 revision ? I m searching There's no D0 point on 1.6 revisions. LFRAME needs to be cut and D0 on the chip needs to be grounded. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Akumakage said: Hi Lopenator Is this good soldering enough ? Best regards I think you need a real desolding tool... The one sitting in the background of this photo looks like it may be to big to get the job done. You completely cleared out the LPC. At least you're starting new. Go ahead and do the pin header first. THEN solder the LPC to the pin header and various other pads and vias. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akumakage Posted June 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, SylverReZ said: There's no D0 point on 1.6 revisions. LFRAME needs to be cut and D0 on the chip needs to be grounded. Ah yes ok I am very sorry. I supposed things is all clear now because I stop to mix something i shouldn't. I will do that and I hope the D0 line is the only thing that fried. Thank you very much 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akumakage Posted June 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 28 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said: I think you need a real desolding tool... The one sitting in the background of this photo looks like it may be to big to get the job done. You completely cleared out the LPC. At least you're starting new. Go ahead and do the pin header first. THEN solder the LPC to the pin header and various other pads and vias. I used that tool indeed . I will show when it will be done. Thank you again bowlsnapper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_Dave Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 4 hours ago, SylverReZ said: D0 on the chip needs to be grounded. No it doesn't need grounding Cheers SS Dave Soft modding is like masturbating, It gets the job done but it's nothing like the real thing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_Dave Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 In my view wire the LPC like this, The arrow is the D0 from the mod-chip Cheers SS Dave Soft modding is like masturbating, It gets the job done but it's nothing like the real thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 2 hours ago, SS_Dave said: In my view wire the LPC like this, The arrow is the D0 from the mod-chip Cheers SS Dave Soft modding is like masturbating, It gets the job done but it's nothing like the real thing. What is that leg for and why does it work as a D0? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopenator Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said: What is that leg for and why does it work as a D0? that is ground pin maybe? Edited June 30, 2023 by lopenator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akumakage Posted June 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 40 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said: What is that leg for and why does it work as a D0? Check the Pic with the xenium lpc still on the motherboard, you should see the "D0" printed on it. Follow the trace, it lead to that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Akumakage said: Check the Pic with the xenium lpc still on the motherboard, you should see the "D0" printed on it. Follow the trace, it lead to that point. Yes, but I would like to know why some people are told to solder the D0 to the leg (not Lframe)? Does it serve the same purpose? Is the grounding momentary and I can access my TSOP? @SS_Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akumakage Posted June 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Bowlsnapper said: Yes, but I would like to know why some people are told to solder the D0 to the leg (not Lframe)? Does it serve the same purpose? Is the grounding momentary and I can access my TSOP? @SS_Dave All I know is that chip prevent stress on the D0 line because that xenium nemesis can managed the pulsation of it, the "OS" know when to pulse it normaly and when to pulse it on the ground. 1.6 revision are very bizarre on that point, because of Microsoft become more and more sticky with modding. I know too that TSOP is very unacessable on that revision. I am sorry bowlsnapper, I cannot help. But who knows ? Maybe one day with wires, usb port and special flash adapter with a similar method of the eeprom flashing or the flash diedmotherboard like for some bios flash on pc. Edited June 30, 2023 by Akumakage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akumakage Posted June 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 There is the first step. I try the lpc rebuild but I got to tinned a little less that header. Especialy the right of it. Tell me what you think of that strange brown marks that appeared. First time I see that. Is that the greeny skin of the motherboard that left ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 50 minutes ago, Akumakage said: There is the first step. I try the lpc rebuild but I got to tinned a little less that header. Especialy the right of it. Tell me what you think of that strange brown marks that appeared. First time I see that. Is that the greeny skin of the motherboard that left ? Looks like solder mask that has ripped up off the board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopenator Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 doesn't look good. hopefully the PTH isn't damaged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akumakage Posted June 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Do you have any advice or suggestion about the ripping of the solder mask ? Should I put something on these ? @lopenator @Bowlsnapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopenator Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 make sure no traces or pth are ripped. if everything is intact you can leave it be. if you have solder mask you can apply a little. if traces are damaged you'll need jumpers. you need to inspect the board. we can't tell from the photos. good luck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Akumakage said: Do you have any advice or suggestion about the ripping of the solder mask ? Should I put something on these ? @lopenator @Bowlsnapper Like lope said, if there wasn't a trace ripped up, then it doesn't matter. He's right that you should use some solder mask, because you don't really know what that copper is attached to and it's best to just cover it as best you can and keep anything from shorting... even though it's just a cross section of copper and solder mask. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_Dave Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Akumakage said: There is the first step. I try the lpc rebuild but I got to tinned a little less that header. Especialy the right of it. Tell me what you think of that strange brown marks that appeared. First time I see that. Is that the greeny skin of the motherboard that left ? Is this board booting to the original bios now? Cheers SS Dave Soft modding is like masturbating, It gets the job done but it's nothing like the real thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akumakage Posted July 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 3 hours ago, SS_Dave said: Is this board booting to the original bios now? Cheers SS Dave Soft modding is like masturbating, It gets the job done but it's nothing like the real thing. No Dave The second console works! This is just the modchip that probably died when the D0 line burried up. The file is about the first console, which now have a dead D0 line from the frag while I was playing and I try to make much more better soldering to make sure there will be no issue in the future. The lfram is now cutted by the way, as the line is probably fried indeed, but I supposed like it won't cause any sort of bug. I will double check the board and solder a lpc rebuilder today, then put another chip on it (an Aladin with a evox that I know she work, I do not use it because I cannot flash it with the console ) (for now it doesn't matter). Best regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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