possible to clone 1TB to 2TB

[prtscn]

Anything i should know before upgrading hdd by cloning from 1TB to 2TB? With raw copy tool?

After cloning i format.partition F partition to the rest of hdd?

[PRince404]

Would like to know this aswell for when I upgrade my hdd in the future.

[HDShadow]

Hope I have not misunderstood but you are likely going to be unhappy if you do what you said in that final sentence. AFAIK you cannot extend F:\ without wiping its content. Maybe on PC with FATXplorer but I do not know about that.

Maybe if you have the, apparently, magic CerBIOS it might be different but in all other cases a 2TB HDD has to be formatted to have less than 1TiB in both the extended partitions ie. F:\ and G:\. n other words it must be split equally.

What I do not know also, because I haven't done it myself, is what happens if you clone a 1TB HDD then reformat the clone to create a new G:\ drive in the free space. Whether it reformats both extended partitions and wipes the content of F:\ I have no idea but I think it might do.

In short I'd be interested in an authoritative answer too.

[prtscn]

17 minutes ago, HDShadow said:

Hope I have not misunderstood but you are likely going to be unhappy if you do what you said in that final sentence. AFAIK you cannot extend F:\ without wiping its content. Maybe on PC with FATXplorer but I do not know about that.

Maybe if you have the, apparently, magic CerBIOS it might be different but in all other cases a 2TB HDD has to be formatted to have less than 1TiB in both the extended partitions ie. F:\ and G:\. n other words it must be split equally.

What I do not know also, because I haven't done it myself, is what happens if you clone a 1TB HDD then reformat the clone to create a new G:\ drive in the free space. Whether it reformats both extended partitions and wipes the content of F:\ I have no idea but I think it might do.

In short I'd be interested in an authoritative answer too.

i was thinking about partition G, but for some reason i wrote F.

So i clone HDD from 1 to 2 TB. Leave F partition as is and format remaining space to G partition. 

I will try to do this and report my results.

[Fringle]

The first couple of replies in this older thread may give you some clues as to what you need to do when cloning drives for the OGxbox.

From my experience FatXplorer can only create and format an entire drive and can't create a single partition on already existing drive with a file system.  So, creating a G drive on an already existing xbox files system will possibly need to be done on the xbox with Xbpartioner. 

[Bowlsnapper]

2 hours ago, prtscn said:

i was thinking about partition G, but for some reason i wrote F.

So i clone HDD from 1 to 2 TB. Leave F partition as is and format remaining space to G partition. 

I will try to do this and report my results.

This is the correct answer. There are two options :

1. Do This.

2. Use FATXplorer to backup F on your PC HDD, Format F to 2 terabytes, move stuff back. Then you would have one data partition instead of two.

FTP is also possible, technically, but I think a file would fail to copy before your whole drive was even close to being copied. There are too many risks for failure... Also it's slow as FUCK.

 

[prtscn]

Cloning completed additional partition was created with xbpartitioner. Everything works.

Problem, i want to offload files to a new partition, but transfer speeds are criminally slow. Any proper file manager to internally transfer files? fatxplorer only mounts 1 partition.

[Bowlsnapper]

12 minutes ago, prtscn said:

Cloning completed additional partition was created with xbpartitioner. Everything works.

Problem, i want to offload files to a new partition, but transfer speeds are criminally slow. Any proper file manager to internally transfer files? fatxplorer only mounts 1 partition.

I don't know why, either. It should be loading the whole drive and ALL its partitions, ideally. Transfer speeds in file managers in a dashboard are too slow, you're saying?

[prtscn]

2 hours ago, Bowlsnapper said:

I don't know why, either. It should be loading the whole drive and ALL its partitions, ideally. Transfer speeds in file managers in a dashboard are too slow, you're saying?

speed averages 13000KB/s about 13MB/s, both xbmc and unleashx.

[HDShadow]

On 12/13/2023 at 7:14 PM, Bowlsnapper said:

2. Use FATXplorer to backup F on your PC HDD, Format F to 2 terabytes, move stuff back. Then you would have one data partition instead of two.

 

 

 

You're saying that with FATXplorer you can now create a 2TB F:\drive rather than, previously, when you had to spit it equally between F:\ and G:\, yes?

I too was going to suggest backing up the existing F:\ drive content to PC first and then transferring it back once the drive was correctly partitioned but assumed prtscn did not want to do that as it would take a donkey's age to do.

 

[prtscn]

I think my HDD is fragmented heavily, because how hectic the head is articulating when accessing data.

There is no other way to defrag HDD, but by transferring files to PC and transferring files back to XBOX HDD.

Problem, i want to retain time stamps for files and folders. For that i use Robocopy, but for some reason some folders dont have original date. Can someone advice me on this, google refers to DCOPY:T command, but no dice. I have a problem with folder time stamps.

Command i use: X:\ D:\F /DCOPY:T /COPY:DAT /E /MIR /MT:2

False alarm, wrong time stamp reverts to original when i cancel operation, so after completion time stamp should revert to original. During transferring time stamp on folders are not original.

Edited December 16, 2023 by prtscn

[TheLastSamurguy]

On 12/13/2023 at 2:14 PM, Bowlsnapper said:

2. Use FATXplorer to backup F on your PC HDD, Format F to 2 terabytes, move stuff back. Then you would have one data partition instead of two.

 

This "just format it..." is where I've still been lost for the last 2 hours. 

I've got a similar project where I want to take a 500GB HDD image that's currently on a 1TB drive and make use of the blank space. I've got everything on F copied off fine, I just have no idea how to actually wipe and re-partition a single partition. F can go away and be reborn as a new biggerer F partition, FATXplorer just doesn't do this. Or at least I don't see a way to.  

I've been looking at Chimp and XBPartitioner, seen those both mentioned. 

[Bowlsnapper]

57 minutes ago, TheLastSamurguy said:

This "just format it..." is where I've still been lost for the last 2 hours. 

I've got a similar project where I want to take a 500GB HDD image that's currently on a 1TB drive and make use of the blank space. I've got everything on F copied off fine, I just have no idea how to actually wipe and re-partition a single partition. F can go away and be reborn as a new biggerer F partition, FATXplorer just doesn't do this. Or at least I don't see a way to.  

I've been looking at Chimp and XBPartitioner, seen those both mentioned. 

XBPartitioner, for sure. I think FATX can only do 1TB partitions. XBP is more fully featured in many regards. I think @KaosEngineer could give you advice there. He's pretty familiar with it. (Hopefully he'll be by soon.) Whatever you do, before you start formatting anything, back up ALL your partitions, just in case. One partition by one.

You will find info here on how to format a 2TB partition. Make sure to pay attention to your cluster size! I actually plan to do this with my Origins-based image. It has all the games spread across 2 partitions (F and G) and I wanna get rid of that and make my master image a 2TB F.

Edit: It seems that trying to format over 1TB causes issues with corruption with cluster sizing of 512 - 1024. I don't know why. Kaos, could you explain that for us?

 

[MadMartigan]

Use 128kb clusters for 1TB Partitions. 

Here is a detailed guide to follow. 

[MadMartigan]

Alternatively,  you could use the Chimp application to clone a new drive directly from your old one. This could take a good bit of time depending on what's on your older hdd. You'll need a molex y-Splitter for this method. 

[big F]

You could use a raw copy mode in a PC based back up software.  It will depending on version/software, create a back up file on another drive to then be used to make your clone, and then you write it to the new drive.  Or the better option would be to clone straight to the new drive.  The. You’ll have the 1Tb drive setup and contents on the 2Tb drive and should be able to then create aG drive with the spare space.    I use Acronis,   It does have the clone in place ability, and if it can al least recognise a file partition type it can expand the image onto the new drive.

Not tried it that way as normally just straight up clone then create a new partition for the space.

with some drive formats on older board controllers you can change the drive Type number so the card can correctly see and report the drive contents. That way the OS can see it and then the back up software also sees it.  Use that method on Amiga and similar era hardware as there was no set type standard back then as everyone was still fighting it out.   Amiga use type 76 and a few other computer types use 77 for example.