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I finally got my 1.6 xbox running evox m8plus to mount xiso images (putting the Virtual Drive folder into e:\Apps\Virtual Drive and then running patcher.xbe from the file manager within XBMC4Xbox. However, I have to manually run the patcher.xbe every time from within Xbmc, then run the attach.xbe/default.xbe for the game I want. I still cannot figure out how to load the patcher first and then load XBMC4Xbox. Currently on my C:\ drive is evoxdash.xbe and evoxdash.cfg pointing to E:\Apps\XBMC\default.xbe. I always get a black screen if I try to rename the patcher to evoxdash.xbe and the xbmc forwarder to evox.xbe.

Sorry for the confusing first post. Excited about finally being able to mount but would love some advice on correctly chaining loading the patch and then dash.

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2 minutes ago, kimbapslice said:

I got Jade Empire to work by ripping the original with DVD2Xbox via ISO mode. I thought it would have saved me time by using the redump image and then the mulletter program but maybe I did the conversion process incorrectly.

Are you talking about the USA or Europe version?

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My personal copy is the USA version. The redump one seems to be a USA and European combined (maybe it's all the same). I am still very new to playing by iso and how to process some of these images. I am trying to save on file fragmentation and such on the hdd by using iso and ripping time/laser life. I wonder how everyone else is converting the 7gb dumps to mountable iso.

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1 minute ago, kimbapslice said:

My personal copy is the USA version. The redump one seems to be a USA and European combined (maybe it's all the same). I am still very new to playing by iso and how to process some of these images. I am trying to save on file fragmentation and such on the hdd by using iso and ripping time/laser life. I wonder how everyone else is converting the 7gb dumps to mountable iso.

Just checked on Redump and USA and Europe is combined. Only Italian and Spanish though. France and Germany got different releases. Can you share the MD5 of the Redump ISO to check? I have a pull request for extract-xiso to directly convert Redump to XISO and I would like to test it with this game.

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8 minutes ago, Rapper_skull said:

Just checked on Redump and USA and Europe is combined. Only Italian and Spanish though. France and Germany got different releases. Can you share the MD5 of the Redump ISO to check? I have a pull request for extract-xiso to directly convert Redump to XISO and I would like to test it with this game.

I just ran the MD5 of the redump ISO I was trying to convert and it is fba8c3ee9f503d7a132e8e80eabe6d6a

Which checks out with the redump site's MD5. Using Xdvdmulletter beta 10.2 I wasn't able to rebuild the iso, so I tried extracting all the files and then used qwix or c-xboxtool to build the iso, then xisosplit to make it compatible with fatx limit. The extracted files work on the xbox but the iso created from that doesn't mount. DVD2Xbox's rip does mount. Strange.

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4 minutes ago, kimbapslice said:

I just ran the MD5 of the redump ISO I was trying to convert and it is fba8c3ee9f503d7a132e8e80eabe6d6a

Which checks out with the redump site's MD5. Using Xdvdmulletter beta 10.2 I wasn't able to rebuild the iso, so I tried extracting all the files and then used qwix or c-xboxtool to build the iso, then xisosplit to make it compatible with fatx limit. The extracted files work on the xbox but the iso created from that doesn't mount. DVD2Xbox's rip does mount. Strange.

Some programs have problems with ISOs larger than 4.7 GB. I'll try with my version of extract-xiso and I'll let you know.

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This post hopefully helps others trying to mount ISO. I finally got my dash to chain load.

Setup:

I am using a 1.6 xbox with xboxhdmi, 500gb hdd, openxenium running evox m8plus 16 lba48 ( bios patch 1.4.3), f drive only.

I downloaded the evoxdash.xbe file from KaosEngineer from page 1. Used Xbe Shortcut Maker 2.0 and created evox.xbe pointing to XBMC4Xbox (e:\Apps\XBMC\default.xbe). I put both evoxdash.xbe (this is the patcher that allows mounting of iso, runs first) and evox.xbe on C:\. The evoxdash.xbe runs and then it loads evox.xbe.

The attach.xbe (can be renamed to default.xbe) is placed in the same directory as whichever game.iso and then I run that from within XBMC. ISO's larger than 4gb will have to be split with xisosplit.

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I found the easiest way to get this working was to use XBMC4Gamers by Rocky5. It does all the hard work for you really. 

I think most people struggle to get their head around the fact that they have to load the attach.xbe in before they can load their iso game.  I did write a bit of an explanation of how to do it  using XBMC4Gamers earlier in this thread i think... Lol, its been a while since i've messed with the OG.

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52 minutes ago, KaosEngineer said:

Redump disc images are not in the correct format. They are an archival format of the entire dual-layer original disc.

They are not XISO disc images.

 

But it's the only format that can be used to verify a dump against the original. And can be converted to XISO fairly easily (with the right tools).
I can confirm that extract-xiso, with my fixes, can be used to convert also this game.

The command I use is the following:

extract-xiso.exe -r -m "MyGame.iso"

-r rewites the ISO, while -m disables automatic xbe patching (it shouldn't be necessary when running from XISO, but I could be wrong here).

As for the splitting part, I use GNU split, but any file splitter can be used, as long as you split on a 2 kB (2048 B) boundary. I usually split at the 4 GB - 64 kB (4294901760 B) mark, to minimize fragmentation with any HDD sector size.

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You need to patch the xbes, some games have a xbe offset check (Toca 3 is one) that looks for the xbe at a specific position on the disc. If you remake the XISO from extracted files it will crash at the main menu so you need to patch it still. 
 

DVD2Xbox makes a 1.1 copy of the disc (split if larger than 4GB) basically a redump image, so the xbe offset and any other xbe checks games have are intact when done this way. Only downside is they are 7GB each. 
 

Media, FatX and region patches are fine when making XISO, as the long file name protections are separate from those and that’s the main reason for XISO loading. 

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2 hours ago, Rocky5 said:

You need to patch the xbes, some games have a xbe offset check (Toca 3 is one) that looks for the xbe at a specific position on the disc. If you remake the XISO from extracted files it will crash at the main menu so you need to patch it still. 
 

DVD2Xbox makes a 1.1 copy of the disc (split if larger than 4GB) basically a redump image, so the xbe offset and any other xbe checks games have are intact when done this way. Only downside is they are 7GB each. 
 

Media, FatX and region patches are fine when making XISO, as the long file name protections are separate from those and that’s the main reason for XISO loading. 

Does it mean it's possible to directly play a Redump image as long as you remove the video partition?

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11 minutes ago, Rapper_skull said:

Does it mean it's possible to directly play a Redump image as long as you remove the video partition?

Yes, like mentioned earlier.

use DD like 

dd if=game.iso of=game_data.iso skip=387k bs=1k

But the game will be huge and most of the time won't fit the xbox file system, you really want the xiso without all the redump bloat.  So just extract the iso and then repack. I wrote a tool for this a few years ago to download the ReDump images and then repack them with the attached.xbe. I will see if I can find it somewhere on my linux box.

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2 minutes ago, KitMikro said:

Yes, like mentioned earlier.

use DD like 

dd if=game.iso of=game_data.iso skip=387k bs=1k

But the game will be huge, you really want the xiso without all the redump bloat. So just extract the iso and then repack. I wrote a tool for this a few years ago to download the ReDump images and then repack them with the attached.xbe. I will see if I can find it somewhere on my linux box.

It's not necessary to extract them. You can convert them with a modified version of extract-xiso. Then I use XBMC4Gamers' script to install them in bulk.

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26 minutes ago, Rapper_skull said:

It's not necessary to extract them. You can convert them with a modified version of extract-xiso. Then I use XBMC4Gamers' script to install them in bulk.

Ah it's been a few years since I looked into this. I used to mount or if it didn't mount correctly extract the image and then repack. I also see you added a fix for ReDump at extract-iso GitHub. Thanks!

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9 hours ago, Rocky5 said:

You need to patch the xbes, some games have a xbe offset check (Toca 3 is one) that looks for the xbe at a specific position on the disc. If you remake the XISO from extracted files it will crash at the main menu so you need to patch it still. 
 

DVD2Xbox makes a 1.1 copy of the disc (split if larger than 4GB) basically a redump image, so the xbe offset and any other xbe checks games have are intact when done this way. Only downside is they are 7GB each. 
 

Media, FatX and region patches are fine when making XISO, as the long file name protections are separate from those and that’s the main reason for XISO loading. 

So really even using the xdvdmulleter program to rebuild into an xiso or extract the files and building the xiso from redump images will for some games not work due to the fact that they check for offsets? (Like Toca 3 that you mentioned). Unless we patch the xbe for those specifics games.

... or dump the original games via DVD2Xbox to xiso for the best result.

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7 hours ago, Rapper_skull said:

It's not necessary to extract them. You can convert them with a modified version of extract-xiso. Then I use XBMC4Gamers' script to install them in bulk.

Hi Rapper_skull, does your version take into account what Rocky5 was saying about the offset check for certain games? Would Toca 3 work?

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20 hours ago, kimbapslice said:

Hi Rapper_skull, does your version take into account what Rocky5 was saying about the offset check for certain games? Would Toca 3 work?

I tested the following games:

extract-xiso applied only one patch to TOCA 1 and none to the others, but still all 3 games loaded fine and let me create a profile. I don't know if the protection kicks in later or what.

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On 4/28/2021 at 11:47 AM, Rapper_skull said:

I tested the following games:

extract-xiso applied only one patch to TOCA 1 and none to the others, but still all 3 games loaded fine and let me create a profile. I don't know if the protection kicks in later or what.

Toca 1 is fine, Toca 2 has long file names but not sure if it effects the game. Toca 3 will black screen after loading the profile. (Never gets to the menu) 

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38 minutes ago, Rocky5 said:

Toca 1 is fine, Toca 2 has long file names but not sure if it effects the game. Toca 3 will black screen after loading the profile. (Never gets to the menu) 

Just tested TOCA 3 and the profile loads fine, but the Xbox halts on a black screen when selecting World Tour mode.
I don't understand why the Xbox community never adopted on the fly patching, like Swiss on the Gamecube for example. BTW is dvd2xbox the only tool that correclty patches all games?

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On 4/29/2021 at 12:38 PM, Rapper_skull said:

Just tested TOCA 3 and the profile loads fine, but the Xbox halts on a black screen when selecting World Tour mode.
I don't understand why the Xbox community never adopted on the fly patching, like Swiss on the Gamecube for example. BTW is dvd2xbox the only tool that correclty patches all games?

Yes, other tools just do the short fatx checks, region & media flag patch the xbes. 


DVD2Xbox does the long fatx patch and can also do a lot more custom patches for games that require specific modifications. 

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