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  1. Yeah I flashed with linux back then because it had no trouble with Winbond TSOPs. So I would just do all TSOP's the same way. Also, raincoat is way more stable than evox. You didn't have to worry about the console crashing during the erasure or flash and bricking. It would always complete. So it was my preferred way to do it.
  2. I'm not sure if we're splitting hairs here but I've never softmodded either. I tsop flashed hundreds of xboxs back in 2002/3 - 2006 just by running the exploit and having it run raincoat. Then I'd go to my pc and give it the commands to erase the tsop and then write the bios to it. IMO running the exploit is not softmodding. It allows us to run the 1 app, but does not in and of itself make the console run unsigned code at next boot. THAT would be a softmod. Forcing the exploit to run at every boot and then having that automatically load a bfm bios is a softmod. So yeah this has always been possible.
  3. Locking because I don't think anything positive can come from this from here on. I HATE stifling free speech, but I don't see a path forward for this thread.
  4. I ran across this thread from Milenko: Edit: I thought it was the guy behind Cerbios but apparently it is not.
  5. Anyone else notice the solder splash containing a resistor and c7d2 tombstoned with a possibly lifted trace?
  6. As far as Dubesinhower's video: I think he's trying to be fair. I also think he has a little bit of bias toward the maker of this product because they have direct communication. I think we would all do the same. You would tend to believe the person you know vs those you don't. As far as the argument that stellar would be protected under "Fair Use", there is a gaping hole in that theory. Under Fair Use you CAN reverse engineer hardware and software to make your product work with an existing product. https://www.eff.org/issues/coders/reverse-engineering-faq#:~:text=Fair Use%3A The fair use,can be a fair use. For that to apply, there could only be one Kernel revision (that being 5838). As it stands, only v1.6 Xbox's with Kernel 5838 would work with Stellar. If it were only intended for use on 1.6's with 5838, then Fair Use would apply. Since EVERY OTHER APPLICATION of this product would require the user to locate and download 5838 and apply it to their console, Fair Use could not apply. Stellar would need to be interoperable without modifying the original product. Since that is the minority of use cases, it simply does not apply here. Also see: Blizzard v. BnetD If the Xbox has a EULA that tells you not to make copies or reverse engineer it, then it CANNOT BE FAIR USE if you do so. The Xbox Dashboards all say not to make copies of the Xbox Software (which you would need to do to analyze them so you could reverse engineer them), invalidating the Fair Use claim. Edit: I don't say this to take sides. I don't support people taking each other's work and undercutting each other. I also don't support frivolous lawsuits or threats of them to strong-arm people into doing what you want.
  7. You posted an article from 2003 when the XBOX was in its heyday. There is an exemption to the DMCA for obsolete computer programs. The Xbox now qualifies as that. So what was applicable in 2003 is no longer applicable. "3. Computer programs and video games distributed in formats that have become obsolete and which require the original media or hardware as a condition of access. A format shall be considered obsolete if the machine or system necessary to render perceptible a work stored in that format is no longer manufactured or is no longer reasonably available in the commercial marketplace." https://itlaw.fandom.com/wiki/DMCA_Exemptions_to_the_Prohibition_on_Circumvention So, imagine you own a collection of OGXbox game disks and would like to play them but cannot seem to find an OGXbox with a working disk drive. They aren't made anymore and aren't available in retail stores like they used to be. Your option is to circumvent the copy protection so you can legitimately play the software you own. It was mentioned further down that the software is available in "the marketplace" meaning xbox one and xbox series "Store". While the games are the same title, the games have been remastered and are in a different format so that they can be played on the newer consoles. (I'm sure emulation will come up, but if you've ever purchased one you can see it's in xvd format. It appears to be standalone so if it is emulated each title contains the emulator and the rom.) It's far cheaper and faster to pay the 7-10 dollars for the game there (assuming you have a console that can view it there and know it exists) than to purchase an ogxbox, modify it, add a hdd, acquire the title you want, come up with a way to connect it to a modern tv, etc. In other words, even if someone is a filthy pirate of the ogxbox, it's not in direct competition with xbox games playable on modern consoles.
  8. DO NOT SELL Pre-made hd+ clones here. I will perma-ban you. DO NOT POST THE FIRMWARE HERE or link to it. If you have, remove it. I've searched and can't find it so I'm hopeful that it doesn't exist here. I have also not received a DMCA takedown notice. I've looked and have not found one. If I did, I would remove the requested thread and prepare a legal defense. I understand people have strong feelings about this brand. I haven't taken the time to care or have an opinion on it. While this site is about unlocking the original xbox to do things it was never meant to do now that it is no longer being produced or turning a profit for its maker, it is not meant to bring harm to anyone at all. The intent is actually quite the opposite. I have no dog in this fight and I hate to see this drama happen. I am just trying to understand from a legal perspective what is actually going on here. To understand any potential litigation I have a couple of questions people here might be able to help me answer. 1. Is the firmware obtainable via that github page(or was it ever)? Meaning, is the firmware that is being discussed to not be flashed to their official product but instead a cheap third party device available on that github? Can it be downloaded there instead of extracted from their hardware? The entire GPL argument hinges on this answer. I GUARANTEE a court would find that only the software / firmware listed on the github page where the GPL license is displayed is covered by the GPL IF any is listed. Firmware that could not be obtained there, but could only be obtained via special hardware and software would almost certainly not be covered(meaning the firmware being read from the hd+ and dumped to a file that can then be distributed). These questions would be asked: "What firmware is shared under GPLv2? Is it explicitly listed? Can we implicitly assume from this statement that ALL firmware is covered or only firmware on github or explicitly listed in the license statement? Absent any firmware being available on github, it may be reasonable to assume that the firmware in question IS covered since any other firmware is absent." Meaning, if no firmware is available on github, you could have ONLY been speaking about THIS firmware. Finally, the question would arise if it was ambiguous that this firmware is covered under GPLv2: "Why would a person purchase a product with this firmware, then extract it other than to replicate the product?" 2. Under the DMCA, is anyone familiar with a provision within it that EXCLUDES the DMCA protection of code that circumvents copy protection from itself being copied and circumvented? In other words, if you have a piece of code that circumvents copy protection, can you still insist the DMCA protect your code from circumvention? Once the HD+ required the modchip component instead of JUST the hdmi mod, this would become very relevant. There IS an exclusion for devices no longer being produced and profit being drawn from them. That's why sites like this can exist. We don't advocate for or even want piracy, but I am aware some people could use the information obtained here for those purposes. I absolutely would NOT have facilitated this site if the subject of this site were still in production and generating a profit for its maker. I waited to launch this site until not only that console generation had been sunset but also the following generation. They were in the third year of their third generation console before I launched this site covering the first generation console JUST to ensure no harm was caused. Also worth noting, this site does not generate profit. It operates at a net loss every month. It's not full of ads. There is no paywall. Therefore, I'd prefer to not be sued. I do this to bring people into this hobby together and no other reason. Topics like this REALLY sour me on it and make me wonder why I even do this at all. So that means if someone does find the provision in the DMCA that I asked for, that it's STILL murky because the Xbox is not a current product that yields profit yet the HD+ is. It can come back into question though because the second product's usability and thus profit depends on the first product being exploited (protections circumvented). If YOU are now turning a profit on that particular device by way of your own device, are YOU protected? I've not found a ruling for precedent on that. It would be very expensive for any party that decides to get some clarity here. 3. Does anyone have a link or screenshot to the product in question saying to obtain and use MS firmware 5838? Question 2 can nullify this question but most likely would not. It could show a bad faith argument that a product that "patches" the firmware of another to make it perform in a way other than it was designed and to enable circumvention of copy protection cannot be afforded legal protection. It's applicable because they are requiring a user to go out and find a dumped firmware, and apply it to their hardware in EXACTLY the same manner their litigation would seek to protect them from. (Found here before posting: https://makemhz.com/blogs/news/announcing-project-stellar-plus-more) I'm going to editorialize for a moment here... and please remember that I don't know the back story (please don't tell me on this website) of why people seem to dislike this brand or at least one particular individual behind it. I only see the dislike from certain people and of course unhappy people are the only people you ever hear from. Satisfied people never say anything. With that being said: This "discovery" could have been released with unique and original firmware and nobody would have had a single possibly legitimate legal complaint. It appears that it was released specifically to take a jab at this company, and I believe that is why it got the reaction it got rather than just passive-aggressive commentary in a discord somewhere. Could we all just start making better decisions and not acting out of personal animosity? If someone is truly as bad as some say, they will self-destruct on their own without your help. It's important to not become the villain when you're trying to be the hero. That is a lot more difficult to do than people realize and we've all been there. I'm NOT talking down to you as though I'm smarter or better. I've been petty in the past. I'm only trying to share advice I wish I would have had.
  9. You'll need an online component that requires a unique login to stop people from pirating it.
  10. You'll need to be proficient in C++, DirectX calls, and you'll need the source code from the emulator you want to port. Start here: https://xbdev.net/tuts/tuts.php
  11. @BowlsnapperCalm the fuck down. Everyone who reported it, toughen the fuck up. If I have to do more than this, nobody is going to like it. The Xbox is 22 years old. All of us should be at least that old. Let's act like it. If you can't make a point without cursing people out and talking mad shit, you're a child and I'm going to have to ban you. If you can't handle someone saying things you don't like and you have to tattle on them, you're a child also.
  12. I'm not the same guy.
  13. I increased the sizes. LMK if that helps.
  14. No I didn't enable that. I have thus far been able to slow down the spammers without it. Nothing to the end user has changed.

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