XeniumMods v3.x - Dual Fan Upgrade Kit

[Bowlsnapper]

1 hour ago, toinepro2002 said:

is it possible to buy a ''license'' for these files?

its extremely inconvenient to let someone in AU print it for me in material and color I dont want.  

I also own a printer myself. 

 

Thanks

I doubt it. the files can be shared.

[toinepro2002]

That makes sense, I guess I'll have to design my own then

[Bowlsnapper]

2 hours ago, toinepro2002 said:

That makes sense, I guess I'll have to design my own then

That is quite some work, friend.

[Donnie-Burger]

Pay the guy and he will not dissapoint you.  There isn't any public files that come close to this build quality, not to mention the quality of his 3d prints.  I tested one and I'm ordering 2 more (Maybe more) from him for customers that really liked the design.  I have 3d printers and I dont mind paying Nem for his hard work on this.  Don't get me wrong though as the files would be dope (I would snap a bowl to that) but Nem has to make some Cashola for his time, materials etc.

[Bowlsnapper]

41 minutes ago, Donnie-Burger said:

 (I would snap a bowl to that) 

And, being the Bowl Snapper that I am, I would join you.

[Marty]

Color me skeptical that two 80mm fans blowing down on one section of the motherboard...and then being exhausted out the back by a tiny 60mm fan....doesn't sound like two raccoons fighting over pizza crusts in a metal garbage bin.

[Donnie-Burger]

1 hour ago, Marty said:

Color me skeptical that two 80mm fans blowing down on one section of the motherboard...and then being exhausted out the back by a tiny 60mm fan....doesn't sound like two raccoons fighting over pizza crusts in a metal garbage bin.

No its fine, and keeps the system cooler than 1 fan - we tested it - best design out and prolly wont be a better one.  The precision is like factory as far as the pieces lining up.  Perfect placement for the fans to cool the PSU off.  Divider keeps the air flow as designed. 

[Bowlsnapper]

2 hours ago, Donnie-Burger said:

No its fine, and keeps the system cooler than 1 fan - we tested it - best design out and prolly wont be a better one.  The precision is like factory as far as the pieces lining up.  Perfect placement for the fans to cool the PSU off.  Divider keeps the air flow as designed. 

Do the 2 fans pull the air through the vents in the side of the console and then the vents around the HDD? I can't imagine how else they would have air to pull back down.

[NeMesiS]

On 10/28/2023 at 5:08 AM, Bowlsnapper said:

I cannot overstate how good this is for a PLA 3D printed kit. Nemesis has really put some thought into this and worked VERY hard to develop the best kit he could release that was manufactured with 3D printing. Please support him and try it out. 

 

On 10/30/2023 at 5:15 AM, brownie9987 said:

Absolutely love the design Nem! Everything fits together perfectly, you can definitely tell when putting it together the thought process that went into building this!

Thanks for everyone's support...

 

On 10/30/2023 at 6:29 AM, toinepro2002 said:

is it possible to buy a ''license'' for these files?

its extremely inconvenient to let someone in AU print it for me in material and color I dont want.  

I also own a printer myself. 

 

Thanks

Don't think I would be interested in doing something like that.
I'll be addressing filament again soon...

 

On 11/3/2023 at 9:53 AM, Marty said:

Color me skeptical that two 80mm fans blowing down on one section of the motherboard...and then being exhausted out the back by a tiny 60mm fan....doesn't sound like two raccoons fighting over pizza crusts in a metal garbage bin.

Keep in mind that there is plenty of vents along the PSU to exhaust hot air.

 

On 11/3/2023 at 2:01 PM, Bowlsnapper said:

Do the 2 fans pull the air through the vents in the side of the console and then the vents around the HDD? I can't imagine how else they would have air to pull back down.

The idea is that the cold air comes in through the vents on left hand side.
Coming in through both above and below the HDD.
Air should be able to circulate from below the HDD to the top.
Then hot air is exhausted out the rear and right-hand side.

EDIT: I'm sure cold air will also be coming in from below the faceplate.
Would be cool is someone could test air flow using a smoke machine.
 

 

Edited November 10, 2023 by NeMesiS

[Bowlsnapper]

27 minutes ago, NeMesiS said:

 

Thanks for everyone's support...

 

Don't think I would be interested in doing something like that.
I'll be addressing filament again soon...

 

Keep in mind that there is plenty of vents along the PSU to exhaust hot air.

 

The idea is that the cold air comes in through the vents on left hand side.
Coming in through both above and below the HDD.
Air should be able to circulate from below the HDD to the top.
Then hot air is exhausted out the rear and right-hand side.

EDIT: I'm sure cold air will also be coming in from below the faceplate.
Would be cool is someone could test air flow using a smoke machine.
 

 

Okay I thought that's how the airflow worked thank you for confirming.

[Jay Yardley]

You've certainly piqued this Kiwi's interest. And naturally, since shipping might be less for me, I want in

 

Shall I just email you?

 

This looks so dope

[NeMesiS]

On 10/11/2023 at 12:25 PM, NeMesiS said:

 

Coming Soon:

3Dfillies Black PLA+ filament has now become available...

I just ordered a box with 8x rolls of Black PLA+ and should expect it to arrive within a week.
Upon arrival I will start printing off as many "Dual Fan Upgrade Kits" that I can before official release.
In the meantime, I'll finish up a handful of prints for other projects and give the printers a once over.

 

Filament

Well... I received the new PLA+ formula by 3DFillies and they absolutely ruined in...
Long story short, after testing with a roll I decided to return it for a refund.
I have no idea why they would change the formula but as far as I'm concerned
the filament I've been using for the past 3 plus yeas no longer exists.

Tried to do a few prints using Sunlu since I was able to purchase it locally.
I can get quality prints using this filament but it's such a pain to work with.
Bed adhesion was a major problem, I had to keep the beds well calibrated
and had to monitor the prints closely. This resulted in too many failed prints.

Below is a comparison:
Top = Sunlu - PLA+
Middle = 3DFilles - New PLA+ Formula
Bottom = 3DFillies - Old PLA+ Formula

 

[NeMesiS]

Filament

After doing some research and checking out a number of reviews the
"Polymaker" brands stands out to me as being premium filament.
Bit more expensive but if it produces quality prints and makes my life
easier during bulk printing then I'm happy to pay more...

Currently undecided between the "Polylite PLA+ Pro" and the
"Polylite PETG". I'm not currently setup for PETG and would need to
buy some new beds as PETG will ruin my PEI beds so I might get
a roll of the PLA+ Pro and do some prints to see how things turn out.

 

[Donnie-Burger]

36 minutes ago, NeMesiS said:

Filament

After doing some research and checking out a number of reviews the
"Polymaker" brands stands out to me as being premium filament.
Bit more expensive but if it produces quality prints and makes my life
easier during bulk printing then I'm happy to pay more...

Currently undecided between the "Polylite PLA+ Pro" and the
"Polylite PETG". I'm not currently setup for PETG and would need to
buy some new beds as PETG will ruin my PEI beds so I might get
a roll of the PLA+ Pro and do some prints to see how things turn out.

 

I've tried the polymaker pla+ pro and had good results.  I also compared it to some super cheap pla+ pro and same exact results.  Felt the same and looked the same before and after print.

[NeMesiS]

Special Offer

I need to do a bit of fund raising for a number or reasons:

1 - Printers are starting to show signs of wear n tear and I should
start stocking up on spares including some beds to suit PETG.
2 - Need to buy a bunch of filament to get back to printing again.
3 - And if possible, some extra funds towards PCB assembly.

Considering that I won't be using Sunlu or 3DFillies anymore,
I didn't want to charge full price for them...

What's available:

8x Black Sunlu PLA+ inc. extra Blue faceplate
1x Green 3DFillies (old) inc. extra White faceplate
1x Blue 3DFillies (old) inc. extra White faceplate
1x Red 3DFillies (old) inc. extra White faceplate
*$100aud plus shipping for a complete kit

2x Black 3DFillies (new) no extras
*make me an offer

Shipping:

The kits have been pre-packed and come in at 600 grams
You can use Postage Calculator to see what shipping will be,
just put my postcode as "3000"

Postage calculator & delivery times - Australia Post (auspost.com.au)

 

 

 

[NeMesiS]

1 hour ago, Jay Yardley said:

You've certainly piqued this Kiwi's interest. And naturally, since shipping might be less for me, I want in

 

Shall I just email you?

 

This looks so dope

Correct, you can email me over at: [email protected]

Cheers...
 

14 minutes ago, Donnie-Burger said:

I've tried the polymaker pla+ pro and had good results.  I also compared it to some super cheap pla+ pro and same exact results.  Felt the same and looked the same before and after print.

There was no difference between Polymaker PLA+ and cheaper PLA+?

Nothing annoys me more than failed prints...
I mostly want good bed adhesion and for it not to be too glossy.
Don't forget I'm in Australia and my options are rather limited.
Need to make sure I can find the same filament from alternative
sources so I don't find myself in the same situation again.

I really don't want to be spending the next 4 weeks trying out
different filaments instead of printing these kits...

 

[Donnie-Burger]

3 minutes ago, NeMesiS said:

Correct, you can email me over at: [email protected]

Cheers...
 

There was no difference between Polymaker PLA+ and cheaper PLA+?

Nothing annoys me more than failed prints...
I mostly want good bed adhesion and for it not to be too glossy.
Don't forget I'm in Australia and my options are rather limited.
Need to make sure I can find the same filament from alternative
sources so I don't find myself in the same situation again.

I really don't want to be spending the next 4 weeks trying out
different filaments instead of printing these kits...

 

Ive only tried about 5 brands so i cant say for sure but the $30 rolls and teh $10 rolls were pretty much identical.

[NeMesiS]

38 minutes ago, Donnie-Burger said:

Ive only tried about 5 brands so i cant say for sure but the $30 rolls and teh $10 rolls were pretty much identical.

LoL... Thats more than me, I only really ever used 3DFillies until now...

Like I got good quality form Sunlu but it's more about the workability
of the filament and reducing the rate of failures...

It really annoys me when a 10 plus hour print fails, cheap filament
costs me more than it saves. I would easily pay an extra $10 or more
per roll if I were to rarely get failed prints like I did with 3DFillies.
I could start a 10 hour print and never check it with little to no concern.
Or even print over night while I slept...

With Sunlu I have to set my alarm every hour to make sure I remember
to check the prints as I get distracted with other tasks...

EDIT: Just ordered a roll of Polylite PLA+ Pro, so we'll find out soon.

Edited November 10, 2023 by NeMesiS

[Donnie-Burger]

10 minutes ago, NeMesiS said:

LoL... Thats more than me, I only really ever used 3DFillies until now...

Like I got good quality form Sunlu but it's more about the workability
of the filament and reducing the rate of failures...

It really annoys me when a 10 plus hour print fails, cheap filament
costs me more than it saves. I would easily pay an extra $10 or more
per roll if I were to rarely get failed prints like I did with 3DFillies.
I could start a 10 hour print and never check it with little to no concern.
Or even print over night while I slept...

With Sunlu I have to set my alarm every hour to make sure I remember
to check the prints as I get distracted with other tasks...

Bed adhesion is really good.  I use the glue my printers came with - I apply it before each print.  As long as I do this failures are rare.  If I forget I can get support failures.  I feel your pain on long prints failing.  The bambu printers are fast and good quality.  I have 2x P1P models.  I was getting bad prints out of 1 printer and ended up being hot end needed replacement ($10).  She's printing like day one again.

[NeMesiS]

SMC Fan Control

Came across some OGXbox documentation and there seems to be a PWM pin (13) on the SMC.
From what I can tell, PWM is converted to DC for the case fan.

I hear that Cerbois supports AUTO fan control, it would be interested to see if we
could control PWM fans in this way...
 

 

Edited November 11, 2023 by NeMesiS

[COO-589]

19 hours ago, NeMesiS said:

The idea is that the cold air comes in through the vents on left hand side.
Coming in through both above and below the HDD.
Air should be able to circulate from below the HDD to the top.
Then hot air is exhausted out the rear and right-hand side.

EDIT: I'm sure cold air will also be coming in from below the faceplate.
Would be cool is someone could test air flow using a smoke machine.

Would love to see how it flowed with a smoke machine, which would definitely provide proof-of-concept for the sceptics...

Personally; I'd even accept a DVD bezel replacement that had slits or holes in it to allow air entry directly from out the front of the console as well (rather than predominately through the sides where air could already be warmer in a cabinet or unit, etc) - a smoke machine test with and without the DVD bezel fitted would help test that idea as well.

[Bowlsnapper]

6 hours ago, COO-589 said:

Would love to see how it flowed with a smoke machine, which would definitely provide proof-of-concept for the sceptics...

Personally; I'd even accept a DVD bezel replacement that had slits or holes in it to allow air entry directly from out the front of the console as well (rather than predominately through the sides where air could already be warmer in a cabinet or unit, etc) - a smoke machine test with and without the DVD bezel fitted would help test that idea as well.

This should be done with a Crystal console and a smoke machine.

[ChriZz]

15 hours ago, NeMesiS said:

SMC Fan Control

Came across some OGXbox documentation and there seems to be a PWM pin (13) on the SMC.
From what I can tell, PWM is converted to DC for the case fan.

I hear that Cerbois supports AUTO fan control, it would be interested to see if we
could control PWM fans in this way...
 

 

Hey nemesis, where did that picture come from? Looks like a pdf and seems very interesting. Maybe you could share this or send it to me. Greetings

[Ernegien]

19 hours ago, NeMesiS said:

I hear that Cerbois supports AUTO fan control, it would be interested to see if we could control PWM fans in this way...

The fan speed SMBus/PIC command controls the fan PWM duty cycle so any kernel, app, or i2c hardware peripheral would be capable of regularly querying (ideally listening for) temp and adjusting the fan speed accordingly to target a certain temp etc.

[Bowlsnapper]

19 hours ago, NeMesiS said:

SMC Fan Control

Came across some OGXbox documentation and there seems to be a PWM pin (13) on the SMC.
From what I can tell, PWM is converted to DC for the case fan.

I hear that Cerbois supports AUTO fan control, it would be interested to see if we
could control PWM fans in this way...
 

 

 

3 hours ago, ChriZz said:

Hey nemesis, where did that picture come from? Looks like a pdf and seems very interesting. Maybe you could share this or send it to me. Greetings

Seconded. I would LOVE to have this document. For example, I've always wondered what the ICS chip by the Ethernet controller was for. I always assumed it was an IDE controller... Or responsible for the clocking of the CPU or GPU.