herooftheday Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) Hi I installed an Analog2HDMI in my xbox 1.0 with the help of these PCBs: Everthing went smooth video looks great but sadly no audio. I have booted into original dash and turned off dolby surround to surround and ac3 and dts off butr still no luch. Is there a fix for it? I checked everything with a multimeter and the scematics and seems to be good there. Edited December 20, 2023 by herooftheday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herooftheday Posted December 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 here are some pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 3 hours ago, herooftheday said: here are some pics I think the Electron Shepherd pulls the audio from the digital out, (SPDIF) doesn't it? Have you made sure that digital audio output is selected in the MS Dashboard and that the adapter is wired for it? Sorry if thta's kind of a dumb question. Maybe this could help also: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applesauceman Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 Where did you source those pcbs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, applesauceman said: Where did you source those pcbs? I can't find gerbers either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkMan2004 Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 13 hours ago, herooftheday said: Hi I installed an Analog2HDMI in my xbox 1.0 with the help of these PCBs: Everthing went smooth video looks great but sadly no audio. I have booted into original dash and turned off dolby surround to surround and ac3 and dts off butr still no luch. Is there a fix for it? I checked everything with a multimeter and the scematics and seems to be good there. I have a couple of the boards but haven't got around to installing them yet, I have way too many projects on the go and they keep sliding further down the to do list...I will try to set some time aside in the next two weeks and see if I have any luck.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkMan2004 Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, applesauceman said: Where did you source those pcbs? 9 hours ago, Bowlsnapper said: I can't find gerbers either. I couldn't find Gerber for them, but there was someone selling them on Facebook If either of you guys need one, I could probably spare one.. Edited December 21, 2023 by MilkMan2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 23 minutes ago, MilkMan2004 said: I couldn't find Gerber for them, but there was someone selling them on Facebook If either of you guys need one, I could probably spare one.. Only if you can spare them. But yes I would like one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herooftheday Posted December 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 The guy that made them also sells them on kleinanzeigen here in germany. https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/xbox-classic-1-generation-electron-shepherd-hdmi-adapterplatinen/2306803289-279-316 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herooftheday Posted December 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 14 hours ago, Bowlsnapper said: (SPDIF) doesn't it? Have you made sure that digital audio output is selected in the MS Dashboard Where would that be exactly under audio? or where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herooftheday Posted December 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) That is how I have it since the begining. Edited December 21, 2023 by herooftheday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herooftheday Posted December 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 SOLVED 1.0 have issues with spdif just use analog audio. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkMan2004 Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 39 minutes ago, herooftheday said: SOLVED 1.0 have issues with spdif just use analog audio. Their website says this issue was fixed on the newest xbox2hdmi.. "With this newest version of this module, V3, the Digital Surround Sound audio input has been fixed to work with every revision of the Xbox. " guess that didn't transfer over to the analog2hdmi ... thanks for mentioning it, I was going to put mine into a 1.0, saved me the headache .. looks like it will be going into a 1.3 after i fix the trace rot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 4 hours ago, herooftheday said: That is how I have it since the begining. Well I'm glad selecting the audio type Got you moving. But I'm sure the electron shepherd pulls a signal from the digital and can use it. Is it hooked up? Look at the AV pinout. Pin 6 is positive and the ground is pin 24. It'll sound much better than the analog audio if you can get it to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herooftheday Posted December 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 hours ago, MilkMan2004 said: Their website says this issue was fixed on the newest xbox2hdmi.. yes xbox2hdmi not analog2hdmi 10 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said: Well I'm glad selecting the audio type Got you moving. But I'm sure the electron shepherd pulls a signal from the digital and can use it. Is it hooked up? Look at the AV pinout. Pin 6 is positive and the ground is pin 24. It'll sound much better than the analog audio if you can get it to work. that was already set this way well maybe but sounds over soundbar as good as my bitfunx adapter but I have another one pand will try in on a 1.4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, herooftheday said: yes xbox2hdmi not analog2hdmi that was already set this way well maybe but sounds over soundbar as good as my bitfunx adapter but I have another one pand will try in on a 1.4. Yes, please do... I have the newest version of this adapter so maybe I'm a bit spoiled but please do me a favor. At the very least, install an SPDIF jack in one of your consoles. I do it on every single one now. I am telling you: the analog output of the Xbox will never sound anywhere near as good as digital. Once you get digital going, listen to a CD. First in analog then with digital. Then you'll know what I'm talking about. Also you have the ability to have 5.1 surround. Can't do that with analog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herooftheday Posted December 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 Only 1.0 have this fault though anyways all the others should work fine with digital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, herooftheday said: Only 1.0 have this fault though anyways all the others should work fine with digital. Only that one has a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herooftheday Posted December 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) yes with spdif Acording to internet and the guy I bought the qsbs from. Edited December 21, 2023 by herooftheday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, herooftheday said: yes with spdif Acording to internet and the guy I bought the qsbs from. ... Wow. Okay I didn't know that. I'm glad my recommendation about the dash pointed you in the right direction and you were able to get audio using analog output I guess the digital isn't working for one reason or another. I don't know what that would be... The only other suggestion I have is to go back to the audio menu, go back to digital up top in the first audio menu entry and then have dolby digital disabled in the second box and dts disabled as well. Because I think that certain HDMI converters can only decode certain audio streams so if you choose the most basic one that may work for you. With my electron shepherd, I tested this. I was only able to get digital output with Dolby Surround under the audio mode and then under Dolby Digital and DTS, having both disabled. Try it. Edit: after doing some research, I can see that having the menu set up this way gives you downmixed 2 channel digital audio. I am not sure if the coaxial, which is what the electron shepherd taps into, is capable of the throughput needed to deliver 5.1 channels of sound. This may be why your digital did not work when enabled. You may have had the 5 channels enabled and optical is required for that. Although you're saying that this is the only console that has had this issue, so now I think I'm confused unless you were pulling digital some other way with the other consoles other than the electron shepherd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herooftheday Posted December 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) That is the main reason I think: And that is with xbox2hdmi and analog2hdmi seems to be abit behind/not thought in that way maybe. Edited December 22, 2023 by herooftheday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted December 22, 2023 Report Share Posted December 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, herooftheday said: That is the main reason I think: And that is with xbox2hdmi and analog2hdmi seems to be abit behind/not thought in that way maybe. Why would this output not work with the electron shepherd but it would work with other receivers? That's confusing as hell. Is it just jitter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted December 22, 2023 Report Share Posted December 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Bowlsnapper said: Why would this output not work with the electron shepherd but it would work with other receivers? That's confusing as hell. Is it just jitter? Yes, you are correct. @herooftheday It's interesting. Using the SPDIF coax out, I have no problems with the 1.0 audio being accepted, but whatever is embedding the audie in the HDMI stream does not accept it, well, my revision does because I just got it and they fixed it. Looks like the ADV5711 does not have this issue? I don't know how audio is mixed into a video signal like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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