Meerjel01 Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Can I make money out of making and selling original games for the console? The games will have original assets and settings to avoid copyright and will be sold with decent prices so I thought it was a good idea. But is it legal to do it? Meerjel01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopenator Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Dont think thats legal but Im not a lawyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Just now, Meerjel01 said: Can I make money out of making and selling original games for the console? The games will have original assets and settings to avoid copyright and will be sold with decent prices so I thought it was a good idea. But is it legal to do it? Meerjel01 If people are willing to pay for the homebrew, I don't think MS really gives a shit anymore. It would have to be a good game though if you expect to make money! But I've seen that you can code, and your basic physics seemed pretty cool. I say go for it. If nothing else, it would be a fun project and would end up being very rewarding. I'd like to see what you can come up with and I like your enthusiasm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meerjel01 Posted October 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said: If people are willing to pay for the homebrew, I don't think MS really gives a shit anymore. It would have to be a good game though if you expect to make money! But I've seen that you can code, and your basic physics seemed pretty cool. I say go for it. If nothing else, it would be a fun project and would end up being very rewarding. I'd like to see what you can come up with and I like your enthusiasm! Yes mah man! Though how should I make it so people doesn't share the files around? I feel like I need the earnings for my work and this community is a bit of a "Take and send" group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Just now, Meerjel01 said: Yes mah man! Though how should I make it so people doesn't share the files around? I feel like I need the earnings for my work and this community is a bit of a "Take and send" group. .... Good question... The only way to really do that is to either do offline product keys, or with the xbox connected to a server to verify purchase. Signing the executables would be pointless, even if it's possible. You may not be able to do that, and can only realistically expect what could be considered as donations, since DRM for the Original Xbox is pretty much dead in its own right. In this community, however, guys our age and in our area tend to look out for each other and be supportive. So I don't think you would be ripped off too much. I wouldn't make it about the money anyway, since it's such a small community, relatively. Maybe also port the game to newer consoles with a wider base, especially since homebrew is easy to run on consoles like the Xbox one, with Dev modes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Meerjel01 said: Can I make money out of making and selling original games for the console? If you have the talent to code, you should probably choose a more current and popular platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonic901 Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 As @Marty said, if you know coding and especially 3D engines, do you a favor and learn Unity/Unreal Engine. Make your money on modern technologies and platforms and then you will have money for living and xbox hobby projects. That's what I'm doing. WEB development for living and XBMC coding in free time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meerjel01 Posted October 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, antonic901 said: As @Marty said, if you know coding and especially 3D engines, do you a favor and learn Unity/Unreal Engine. Make your money on modern technologies and platforms and then you will have money for living and xbox hobby projects. That's what I'm doing. WEB development for living and XBMC coding in free time. It's okay for me even if I get little out of this cause I'm not planning on staying in the game industry my whole career. I want to be a cartoonist artist and make animations and comics. I only do games cause I feel like I need to finish my plans. Sorta getting it over with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meerjel01 Posted October 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2023 W.I.P preview of the game incoming! Here it is. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HtBXQ2tnf3loRDc_599Kn3AFRS-IvP3b/view?usp=share_link 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted October 11, 2023 Report Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Meerjel01 said: W.I.P preview of the game incoming! Here it is. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HtBXQ2tnf3loRDc_599Kn3AFRS-IvP3b/view?usp=share_link I'll try this out this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meerjel01 Posted October 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2023 It's actually a video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meerjel01 Posted October 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 I might be too proud of this. Maybe because I haven't gotten this far before? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 Any chance of getting a build to play with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said: Any chance of getting a build to play with? I don't see anything more than 3D figures being dragged around in a modeler.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meerjel01 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 I can try get a demo up today but I will also try not to show too much of my early progress to make people wait too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Meerjel01 said: I can try get a demo up today but I will also try not to show too much of my early progress to make people wait too long. Sounds good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meerjel01 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 Here it is In A Creation.zip Not much to look at but it's a lot of progress since the start. It's 3rd person with no camera collision (Yet) and has simple physics. X to take a screenshot. Y to do a pose. Both triggers and black button to reset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonic901 Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 Maybe you could help me with XBMC rendering in some future. I will need to backport CBaseTexture class from Kodi to backport some features, but I have zero knowledge of DX8 and graphics. I tried blindly copy pasting but result of that was this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meerjel01 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, antonic901 said: Maybe you could help me with XBMC rendering in some future. I will need to backport CBaseTexture class from Kodi to backport some features, but I have zero knowledge of DX8 and graphics. I tried blindly copy pasting but result of that was this: I'm not sure if I can help unless it's simple code. I'm also busy with my own projects so the chance is even smaller. Have you seen the website I've linked to in my XTL tutorial series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonic901 Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 I saw, but I didn't have a chance to dive into it. Hovever, I will once I get to that part, but I don't have any hopes since I don't have any understanding how graphics works and also don't have that much time ti dive into graphics development (OpenGL/DX). And challenge for me is also language. English is not my native and I don't know what many words which can be found in graphics tutorials means. So I hope that some folks from scene will have interesent in helping me with video rendering and everything related to that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 36 minutes ago, antonic901 said: I saw, but I didn't have a chance to dive into it. Hovever, I will once I get to that part, but I don't have any hopes since I don't have any understanding how graphics works and also don't have that much time ti dive into graphics development (OpenGL/DX). And challenge for me is also language. English is not my native and I don't know what many words which can be found in graphics tutorials means. So I hope that some folks from scene will have interesent in helping me with video rendering and everything related to that. There has to be somebody here who is willing to help you. At least I hope so. Maybe ask one of the software developers like Rocky 5? I would be afraid to because I've made such an ass out of myself over the past year, but for somebody solid like you, I think it would be much easier for you to get help I would like to see you succeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meerjel01 Posted October 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 Updated it with some lighting In A Creation.zip Just felt like completing this a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meerjel01 Posted December 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 The game, In A Creation, is still in my head and will continue development even if my Xbox Series S games are of higher priority. Currently in question how to implement the A* system into the engine in an optimized way (Tho I still have an idea for how) and are about to add my first physics object into the game to check if it'll lag. I shouldn't use this topic anymore since it was a question if homebrew games can sell originally. But I'll reveal as little as possible anyway! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Meerjel01 said: The game, In A Creation, is still in my head and will continue development even if my Xbox Series S games are of higher priority. Currently in question how to implement the A* system into the engine in an optimized way (Tho I still have an idea for how) and are about to add my first physics object into the game to check if it'll lag. I shouldn't use this topic anymore since it was a question if homebrew games can sell originally. But I'll reveal as little as possible anyway! I'm interested to see how it goes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGXbox Admin Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 You'll need an online component that requires a unique login to stop people from pirating it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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