Nate2905 Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 I took apart the Xbox 360 my uncle modded in around 2010 because the GPU temperature was always over 75C* and I saw hot glue under the GPU die. It was like that since I had it and I thought it was normal until I realized how hot that really is. The GPU heat sink literally oxidized because it was running so hot for a decade. I hate hot glue!!! What is it with amateur console modders and hot glue? Please don't put hot glue in your console and especially don't use it as thermal paste. This is why I don't want to work on or to buy a previously modded system. My uncle isn't stupid but that was the dumbest thing I have ever saw. I don't think it was on purpose because the old thermal paste was still on and the X clamps where not tampered with. No clue how it got there though. I would have showed off the GPU die but it didn't look much different except for clear yellow bits around the die. It really felt like rubbery hot glue when peeling it off. The CPU die was untampered with completely and ran 20 degrees cooler than the GPU too. The console was also filled with dust because of this issue. The fan speed always idled at 100% and sometimes crashed because of the heat. I now have proof that heat isn't the issue with red ring of death consoles because the console was a Jasper with the favored updated GPU die and it should have cooked itself by now if the GPU die was heating up more than a untampered console and it was used for more than 10 years. Now I replaced the hot glue thermal paste with actual thermal paste and now the idle fan speed is so low I can't hear it. It also idles under 50C* so now so I can enjoy the console without the console shutting off because it going over 80C. Worst part is that the Xbox 360 had genuine Xecuter boards and had a genuine Coolrunner chip too and there was hot glue everywhere around it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate2905 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 This should have been posted in the Rumble Pit but oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 Okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nate2905 said: What is it with amateur console modders and hot glue? I've wondered about that, I guess because it's quick and easy compared to other adhesives, e.g. epoxy, where one desires a permanent bond, but the result looks poor at best and the typical result is simply ghastly. Some people even dump it onto spliced wires in place of heat shrink tubing or electrical tape which is just disgusting. Never heard of using it as thermal paste but I'm not surprised. The worst part about hot glue, to me, is modding tutorials always recommending it. Shame on their authors. Speaking of thermal management I bought one of those cheap 10-cent green thermal pads with my last digikey order. The brand is "t-global" iirc. It keeps my slim xbox's CPU at about 42c under load with the fan running at only 10%. I think I heard people say thermal pads suck but this thing works well. That was 10 cents well spent. Edited October 18, 2023 by fox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate2905 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, fox said: I've wondered about that, I guess because it's quick and easy compared to other adhesives, e.g. epoxy, where one desires a permanent bond, but the result looks poor at best and the typical result is simply ghastly. Some people even dump it onto spliced wires in place of heat shrink tubing or electrical tape which is just disgusting. Never heard of using it as thermal paste but I'm not surprised. The worst part about hot glue, to me, is modding tutorial always recommending it. Shame on their authors. There was hot glue an every soldered trace. Am trying to learn all about how to install a RGH 1.2 onto another Xbox 360 so I can have the experience encase this Xbox 360 decides to not boot. Luckily I have some experience with PCB and surface mount resistor soldering from some XBOX TSOP and PlayStation chip modding and a lot of broken XBOX controller cord replacements. Console modding then was all about trying to get free games to work and was much less of an art now so you see a lot of cut corners and hack jobs when opening up a system that was modded a decade prior. Electrical tape can be place of all hot glue blob wires but I guess people don't trust the non permanent nature of tape, so we gotta make it a pain to remove if something goes wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Nate2905 said: Console modding then was all about trying to get free games to work and was much less of an art now I know. I'm talking about the bulk of mods (and repairs), those that have nothing to do with getting free games to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate2905 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, fox said: I know. I'm talking about the bulk of mods (and repairs), those that have nothing to do with getting free games to work. RGB mods seem to be the worst when it comes to hot glue. Probably the latest mods I have seen that use hot glue in place of heat shrink and electrical tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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