Xxdatboi2008xX Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 I was trying to softmod my xbox by unlocking it using PiPROM and after many attempts I was successful. After I was done checking the drive, I locked the drive again with the same eeprom.bin, then plugged the drive back into the xbox and power cycled the console. I power cylcled the xbox and i get error 6. is there possibly ANY way i could get this drive working again with this xbox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Xxdatboi2008xX said: I was trying to softmod my xbox by unlocking it using PiPROM and after many attempts I was successful. After I was done checking the drive, I locked the drive again with the same eeprom.bin, then plugged the drive back into the xbox and power cycled the console. I power cylcled the xbox and i get error 6. is there possibly ANY way i could get this drive working again with this xbox? I've had that happen before. I think it's due to a failing HDD, like chipset-wise. I end up chucking them and just using aftermarket. Usually I can salvage the data with either ftp (depending on the drive state) or fatxplorer though, they're only partially non-working when trying things like locking or unlocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xxdatboi2008xX Posted September 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said: I've had that happen before. I think it's due to a failing HDD, like chipset-wise. I end up chucking them and just using aftermarket. Usually I can salvage the data with either ftp (depending on the drive state) or fatxplorer though, they're only partially non-working when trying things like locking or unlocking. so no hope for the og drive? my plan was to just get it back to normal, repair all the partitions, then wait and do the save game exploit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Xxdatboi2008xX said: so no hope for the og drive? my plan was to just get it back to normal, repair all the partitions, then wait and do the save game exploit. Since you're softmodding, I'm assuming it's a stock drive, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xxdatboi2008xX Posted September 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said: Since you're softmodding, I'm assuming it's a stock drive, yes? Yes it is a stock seagate drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Xxdatboi2008xX said: Yes it is a stock seagate drive I should say that I don't posess lots of EEROM knowledge, or softmodding for that matter, so my advice would revolve around basically getting your console a bit further along in the process, if that's something you wanted. What were you planning to do with the console once it's softmodded and with a stock HDD? Were you planning to run homebrew, just very SMALL homebrew maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xxdatboi2008xX Posted September 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said: I should say that I don't posess lots of EEROM knowledge, or softmodding for that matter, so my advice would revolve around basically getting your console a bit further along in the process, if that's something you wanted. What were you planning to do with the console once it's softmodded and with a stock HDD? Were you planning to run homebrew, just very SMALL homebrew maybe? I wanted to run insignia specifically. But i would probobly find use of the softmod later down the line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Xxdatboi2008xX said: I wanted to run insignia specifically. But i would probobly find use of the softmod later down the line Honestly, I would just get a 2tb drive and upgrade the HDD. I am going to create an image of my HDD and it has everything on it you could possibly need. You will have to delete XBL data and set up insignia after, but you won't want for anything and I'll make the image available to you and everybody else. It's based on the origins image. Are you opposed in any way to upgrading the HDD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringle Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) Your best bet if you're not going to flash the tsop is to just null out the hdd key with all 0's or all 1's in the eeprom and then write the nulled eeprom back to the Xbox. Makes it much easier to ensure you have the right key that way. Edit: You'll also want to dump the eeprom.bin file a couple of times too and compare them to ensure you have a proper dump. Once you've confirmed that the hdd keys match you're pretty safe to write the eeprom.bin back once nulled. Edited September 12, 2023 by Fringle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Fringle said: Your best bet if you're not going to flash the tsop is to just null out the hdd key with all 0's or all 1's in the eeprom and then write the nulled eeprom back to the Xbox. Makes it much easier to ensure you have the right key that way. Edit: You'll also want to dump the eeprom.bin file a couple of times too and compare them to ensure you have a proper dump. Once you've confirmed that the hdd keys match you're pretty safe to write the eeprom.bin back once nulled. Okay I'm unfamiliar with this. If you null the key on the Xbox side, does it make pretty much any locked drive usable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringle Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bowlsnapper said: Okay I'm unfamiliar with this. If you null the key on the Xbox side, does it make pretty much any locked drive usable? Essentially, as you can lock a drive with 16 0's or 16 1's or any 16 digit number/letter combo for that matter as long as you remember what you made the password you can lock any drive for that Xbox. EDIT: You would need to first unlock a locked hard drive with it's proper password/eeprom.bin and relock it with the new key. Edited September 13, 2023 by Fringle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Fringle said: Essentially, as you can lock a drive with 16 0's or 16 1's or any 16 digit number/letter combo for that matter as long as you remember what you made the password you can lock any drive for that Xbox. EDIT: You would need to first unlock a locked hard drive with it's proper password/eeprom.bin and relock it with the new key. Ok I'm following, so what would be the preferred tool to manage drive locking and unlocking with keys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringle Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said: Ok I'm following, so what would be the preferred tool to manage drive locking and unlocking with keys? First you'd need to dump the eeprom.bin from the Xbox. Edit it with an eeprom editor of your choice(XboxEepromEditor works well enough) and either fill the key with 0's or 1's then write the edited eeprom.bin file back to the Xbox. After that you can lock any drive you wish with what ever software supports locking drives with a null key such as FatXplorer. It also has the option of setting a master password just in case you forget the key. Edited September 13, 2023 by Fringle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Fringle said: First you'd need to dump the eeprom.bin from the Xbox. Edit it with an eeprom editor of your choice(XboxEepromEditor works well enough) and either fill the key with 0's or 1's then write the edited eeprom.bin file back to the Xbox. After that you can lock any drive you wish with what ever software supports locking drives with a null key such as FatXplorer. It also has the option of setting a master password just in case you forget the key. I didn't even know FATxplorer had that option. Thank you and now I and the OP know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateMe Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 10 hours ago, Xxdatboi2008xX said: I was trying to softmod my xbox by unlocking it using PiPROM and after many attempts I was successful. After I was done checking the drive, I locked the drive again with the same eeprom.bin, then plugged the drive back into the xbox and power cycled the console. I power cylcled the xbox and i get error 6. is there possibly ANY way i could get this drive working again with this xbox? I'm missing some information here. Which tool did you use to unlock the drive? Is it XboxHDM? In that case, try to lock it again (without trying to unlock). When you use the eeprom.bin that would work. Sometimes the first time it says it has locked the disk, but it didn`t. I've seen it a few times. Also a warning sign is that it costs you many attempts to get the eeprom.bin. Normally it would be successful after 1 or 2 tries, not many. That made me wonder how good the eeprom realy is. You can check it with the XboxEepromEditor (https://github.com/Ernegien/XboxEepromEditor) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, UltimateMe said: I'm missing some information here. Which tool did you use to unlock the drive? Is it XboxHDM? In that case, try to lock it again (without trying to unlock). When you use the eeprom.bin that would work. Sometimes the first time it says it has locked the disk, but it didn`t. I've seen it a few times. Also a warning sign is that it costs you many attempts to get the eeprom.bin. Normally it would be successful after 1 or 2 tries, not many. That made me wonder how good the eeprom realy is. You can check it with the XboxEepromEditor (https://github.com/Ernegien/XboxEepromEditor) This info may help me since I have 2 HDDs that are floating due to dead motherboards. I may be able to salvage them... for what purpose I have no idea, but at least they wouldn't be trash. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtomcat Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 Important for original poster…. Don’t make your key all 0’s. You mentioned the whole point is insignia…. A null key (all 0’s) is not compatible with insignia … use all 1’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dtomcat18 said: Important for original poster…. Don’t make your key all 0’s. You mentioned the whole point is insignia…. A null key (all 0’s) is not compatible with insignia … use all 1’s ? That's so odd... why would a nulled set of 0s not work but 1s would? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtomcat Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 They explained it… but I forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtomcat Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 I believe it has something to do with the way Xbox live works with encrypting communications… and 0’s break that process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Dtomcat18 said: I believe it has something to do with the way Xbox live works with encrypting communications… and 0’s break that process Maybe it's not a valid value within a certain range when XBL was supposed to be checking to see if your console was fishy or hacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xxdatboi2008xX Posted September 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 This is all great Info! As im probably never gonna get the stock drive working again im interested in a replacement drive. Is there any specific one I should get or should any IDE drive work? Also, I have checked my eeprom.bin with the xboxeepromchecker and it seems valid. Im getting the same key that i unlocked the drive with. I get that taking multiple tries to unlock should have been a big warning and I should have realized but in the moment i was a bit to excited to have finally unlocked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xxdatboi2008xX Posted September 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 FYI. I just made 3 eeprom.bin backups and all 3 are identical to the one I used to unlock/lock the drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xxdatboi2008xX Posted September 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 15 hours ago, UltimateMe said: I'm missing some information here. Which tool did you use to unlock the drive? Is it XboxHDM? In that case, try to lock it again (without trying to unlock). When you use the eeprom.bin that would work. Sometimes the first time it says it has locked the disk, but it didn`t. I've seen it a few times. Also a warning sign is that it costs you many attempts to get the eeprom.bin. Normally it would be successful after 1 or 2 tries, not many. That made me wonder how good the eeprom realy is. You can check it with the XboxEepromEditor (https://github.com/Ernegien/XboxEepromEditor) When trying to lock the drive or unlock the drive (w/disable lock) in xboxHDM23usb beta 4 it gives me error 121 it even gave me that a few times before it finally unlocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xxdatboi2008xX Posted September 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 Here is an screenshot of what happens when I try to lock it (it already says its locked btw) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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