Need Help with a 05 error , xbox ver 1.1 with Mod

[WiZaRd]

Hello, I’m trying to repair an Xbox Ver 1.1 for a friend. It has a Xenium 0449 05 M2 MT mod installed with a 160 GB HDD.

I’m getting a 05 error on boot up. So, I’m assuming its booting with xbox original bios and 05 error has to do with the unlocked 160GB HDD.

My question is, what options do I have here. I don’t know if Mod is bad or the HDD has an error. The mod has a red led always on and I don’t know if this is normal.

If mod is ok, what options do I have to repair HDD to work with existing Xenium mod.I have checked the D0 wire and it is ok.

Thanks

[Bowlsnapper]

1 hour ago, WiZaRd said:

Hello, I’m trying to repair an Xbox Ver 1.1 for a friend. It has a Xenium 0449 05 M2 MT mod installed with a 160 GB HDD.

I’m getting a 05 error on boot up. So, I’m assuming its booting with xbox original bios and 05 error has to do with the unlocked 160GB HDD.

My question is, what options do I have here. I don’t know if Mod is bad or the HDD has an error. The mod has a red led always on and I don’t know if this is normal.

If mod is ok, what options do I have to repair HDD to work with existing Xenium mod.I have checked the D0 wire and it is ok.

Thanks

That LPC looks VERY janky. Smother it with flux and clean it up a bit. I can see that some pins are not even connected to their vias and are islands. Be sure to clean it up with alcohol after. I can see fluxy crud around the pins.

 

[WiZaRd]

Ok, I'll resolder and clean up. thanks

 

[MadMartigan]

Have you tried simply locking your HDD? 

[FrostyMaGee]

3 hours ago, Bowlsnapper said:

That LPC looks VERY janky. Smother it with flux and clean it up a bit. I can see that some pins are not even connected to their vias and are islands. Be sure to clean it up with alcohol after. I can see fluxy crud around the pins.

 

Agreed. Regardless of if that ends up being the issue it definitely needs to be reflowed and the mobo cleaned up afterwards. 

[WiZaRd]

12 hours ago, MadMartigan said:

Have you tried simply locking your HDD? 

How do I lock the HDD? It's been many years since I've worked on an Xbox. Trying to get this one working for a friend.

 

[WiZaRd]

Going to reflow the header pins today.

If that's not the problem, what is next?

[Bowlsnapper]

6 hours ago, WiZaRd said:

How do I lock the HDD? It's been many years since I've worked on an Xbox. Trying to get this one working for a friend.

 

If your bios is loading properly, locking will not be a problem. You are getting the HDD locking error because of the underlying issue, which is that your chip is not functioning properly and not booting your hacked bios. Once you start booting from it again, the HDD locking issue will become a non-issue.

 

6 hours ago, WiZaRd said:

Going to reflow the header pins today.

If that's not the problem, what is next?

Don' future trip yet. For one, I am almost positive that this is your problem. Secondly, if it isn't the problem, then we will help you through the most logical diagnostic steps we can to help you pin it down. Thankfully we have a lot of pretty knowledgeable guys around here. As long as you're not dealing with a FRAG issue, most things can be solved, thankfully.

Actually, before you do anything, if you would be willing, ground the D0 wire and power on to go ahead and force an LPC boot. I'm would want to make sure it happens. With your LPC in the condition it's in at the moment, I would expect a FRAG and wouldn't be alarmed, but at least you would know that your mobo's D0 is gonna force an LPC boot and you can expect it to work properly from here on out as long as the chip is utilizing it appropriately.

[WiZaRd]

1 hour ago, Bowlsnapper said:

If your bios is loading properly, locking will not be a problem. You are getting the HDD locking error because of the underlying issue, which is that your chip is not functioning properly and not booting your hacked bios. Once you start booting from it again, the HDD locking issue will become a non-issue.

 

Don' future trip yet. For one, I am almost positive that this is your problem. Secondly, if it isn't the problem, then we will help you through the most logical diagnostic steps we can to help you pin it down. Thankfully we have a lot of pretty knowledgeable guys around here. As long as you're not dealing with a FRAG issue, most things can be solved, thankfully.

Actually, before you do anything, if you would be willing, ground the D0 wire and power on to go ahead and force an LPC boot. I'm would want to make sure it happens. With your LPC in the condition it's in at the moment, I would expect a FRAG and wouldn't be alarmed, but at least you would know that your mobo's D0 is gonna force an LPC boot and you can expect it to work properly from here on out as long as the chip is utilizing it appropriately.

I didn't mod it, but I'm assuming the D0 wire is already grounded. I just got done reflowing the header pins but havn't tried it yet

[Bowlsnapper]

18 minutes ago, WiZaRd said:

I didn't mod it, but I'm assuming the D0 wire is already grounded. I just got done reflowing the header pins but havn't tried it yet

Your D0 is wired to the chip. You can see the D0 attached to the pad on one of the corners of the Xenium. If the chip is not functioning right, it will not perform the momentary grounding required to spur an LPC boot and the TSOP will boot, like it is now. I was just curious to see if it would actually push a chip boot if provoked by manually grounding the mobo D0wire to a ground point while booting, but if you're already done with the LPC touch up, then just try booting with D0 as it is. Let us know how it goes.

[WiZaRd]

ok, after reflowing the header, I power it up and now all I get is green and red ring and no boot. mod is lit red. If I remove the mod I get Factory boot with 05 error.

It will not boot at all with mod plugged in. Also, I checked the D0 wire point of solder on bottom of motherboard and it is not a ground.  I've attached a pic of bottom D0 solder point. I don't know anything about this mod, but it must have worked at one time as it is. 

If mod is bad can I just install another?

Edited May 1 by WiZaRd

[MadMartigan]

Regardless of popular belief, I have seen many thrown errors on hard modded consoles. Especially if the hdd is locked to another console, has improper files installed, or simply dying. I find it's always best to start with the simple tests just to rule them out. Instead of immediately jumping to resoldering stuff. We're steering back to a few months ago it seems, by overlooking simple solutions and instantly diving in deep. Im just saying 

[Bowlsnapper]

2 hours ago, WiZaRd said:

ok, after reflowing the header, I power it up and now all I get is green and red ring and no boot. mod is lit red. If I remove the mod I get Factory boot with 05 error.

It will not boot at all with mod plugged in. Also, I checked the D0 wire point of solder on bottom of motherboard and it is not a ground.  I've attached a pic of bottom D0 solder point. I don't know anything about this mod, but it must have worked at one time as it is. 

If mod is bad can I just install another?

Since you are now fragging, I think we can assume that your LPC rework got the chip to be able to trigger D0 through the wire. That's why your TSOP boots when the chip is unsocketed and your dashboard boots with the locking error. You are still unable to boot your modded dash and bios which would bypass a locking error entirely. You are triggering an LPC boot, but your chip is not giving the bios over successfully, so the chip may be defective in some way.

The D0 point is not a ground itself. It is a lead to the MCPX for triggering a chip (LPC) boot. IT  is grounded in order to force a chip boot. That's why it's going to the Xenium. The chip is grounding the D0 point (pointing to the MCPX) at boot in order to tell the console to boot from it and load a bios through the LPC instead of the onboard flash (TSOP). That's how it works. All chips require this. Shitty chips like the Aladdin do not have a working D0 pad on them which requires you to take that wire and run it from that point on the bottom of the board to aground point anywhere on the console. I use a screwhole ground on the top of the board, but that's just me.

If the chip is dead, then you should be able to throw another one on the header, yes. Are you able to boot/power-on with the eject button? That should load XeniumOS. I would assume that a bios was already configured to load based on the fact that the HDD is unlocked and it already had the chip in it, but it's worth a shot.

[WiZaRd]

Here’s what I get when pushing eject button with mod. Mod red led comes on then off, then on again, then off, then on and stays on. You can hear HDD start to work. No bios boot. Seems it’s trying to boot HDD but stops. So, most likely bad mod chip or HDD is screwed up. I really don’t know how to eliminate one. 

[MadMartigan]

Did your friend tell you what happened to the console to require this repair? Was it something he did or was it a pick-up? Any more history on the problem might help. If by some chance he tried to flash the Xenium a wrong way, it could require programming again.

[Bowlsnapper]

1 hour ago, MadMartigan said:

Did your friend tell you what happened to the console to require this repair? Was it something he did or was it a pick-up? Any more history on the problem might help. If by some chance he tried to flash the Xenium a wrong way, it could require programming again.

True. I'm honestly surprised it ever worked with that LPC soldered the way it was. I dunno how I haven't thought of that. What IS the history of this thing? Regardless of all, if it WAS working, I'd be interested to know why XeniumOS can't even load when booted with the eject button. It looks like D0 wasn't even being triggered by the time you got it.

[FrostyMaGee]

1 hour ago, Bowlsnapper said:

True. I'm honestly surprised it ever worked with that LPC soldered the way it was. I dunno how I haven't thought of that. What IS the history of this thing? Regardless of all, if it WAS working, I'd be interested to know why XeniumOS can't even load when booted with the eject button. It looks like D0 wasn't even being triggered by the time you got it.

A brief history prior to repair would definitely be beneficial. As to the lpc some of those looked a bit off and one or two looked like cold solder joints. They can work though….right up until the point that they stop. Lol. I’ve seen it happen where many console or other electronic has worked for years with bad solder joints and then it up and stopped abruptly. Especially with poor or cold solder joints. 

[Marty]

If your chip is wired properly and it functions, you should be able to cold boot an installation disk like Hexen or similar.

To be honest, that soldering looks rough.....

[WiZaRd]

As far as history, it came to me not powering up. I installed a good power supply, and got to this point. 
it’s been twenty years since I worked with an Xbox mod. I installed an executed 3 in my son’s Xbox, and it’s still working fine. 
I’m not a professional at this for sure. 
I just need help on how to get this box up and running. 
Soldering seems fine, and header and D0 check  out good in a continuity test.  
it seems that the Xenium mod is trying to boot hdd but stops. I need to know why 

is it hdd or mod? I know nothing of Hexen or any of the apps used now. I need a beginners tutorial of what I can do at this point, to eliminate and fix the problem. 
 

Thanks to all helping me. 
 

[Bowlsnapper]

1 hour ago, WiZaRd said:

As far as history, it came to me not powering up. I installed a good power supply, and got to this point. 
it’s been twenty years since I worked with an Xbox mod. I installed an executed 3 in my son’s Xbox, and it’s still working fine. 
I’m not a professional at this for sure. 
I just need help on how to get this box up and running. 
Soldering seems fine, and header and D0 check  out good in a continuity test.  
it seems that the Xenium mod is trying to boot hdd but stops. I need to know why 

is it hdd or mod? I know nothing of Hexen or any of the apps used now. I need a beginners tutorial of what I can do at this point, to eliminate and fix the problem. 
 

Thanks to all helping me. 
 

I would say that since your chip is not even powering on and handing off the bios, then that would lead to your HDD not even being able to be used in an unlocked state. I am not even sure where to begin diagnosing the chip, as I am not aware of a lot of ways to do so. You are unable to even get into XeniumOS.

[MadMartigan]

I would still try to clean up some of that solder if you have some desoldering braid. There’s just way too much on there. You can also try removing the d0 connection on the chip and grounding it to the pad marked in the picture. Then try to boot with eject. It does seem like the xenium may need reprogramming if you’re 100% sure all the connections are solid. 

[WiZaRd]

Ok, I removed D0 wire and grounded it to the pad you marked. 
it boots to 05 error  

[Bowlsnapper]

1 hour ago, WiZaRd said:

Ok, I removed D0 wire and grounded it to the pad you marked. 
it boots to 05 error  

.... Which end of the wire? Did you hook up the chip to the pad, or the spot on the motherboard to the pad?

[MadMartigan]

On 5/6/2024 at 11:13 AM, WiZaRd said:

Ok, I removed D0 wire and grounded it to the pad you marked. 
it boots to 05 error  

Starting to sound even more like the chip has been fried. Possibly reprogramming it would be the fix.  One last ditch effort could be using recovery mode. With any luck, there should be a recovery switch on the chip itself. If so, you can source a Xenium recovery file and burn it to a dvd-r. While the chip is in recovery mode, do a cold boot with the disc inserted. I can provide further details if interested. 

[WiZaRd]

Yes, please provide details, as I am new at this. 
thanks