monkeyjab Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Trying to figure out an issue. I have a version 1.4 that I modded with modsvilleusa xblast chip (the new robin Williams version). I have a 4 tb wd drive 80 pin connector and startech adapter. I have noticed that rebooting out of games will cause it to crash on the Cerbios screen sometimes. I will occasionally also get a crash on trying to load a game. I'm using xmbc4gamers dash. Udma 5 Overall I works well minus this occasional crash. As far as Cerbios, I have it flashed to the xblast chips 256k bank. No quick boot enabled. All the normal stuff done, recapped, clock cap removed repasted etc Thanks for any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMartigan Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 When you say, “rebooting out of games”, are you referring to IGR(in game reset)? This is usually pressing both triggers, Back, and Black together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 43 minutes ago, monkeyjab said: I have a 4 tb wd drive Is it a brand new drive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjab Posted January 31 Author Report Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Marty said: Is it a brand new drive? Yes it is. I formatted and built the drive in fat explorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMartigan Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 (edited) What cluster size did you choose before formatting? Ideally you’d want 256k for 4TB I believe. 512k is more for above 4TB. Edited February 1 by MadMartigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjab Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, MadMartigan said: When you say, “rebooting out of games”, are you referring to IGR(in game reset)? This is usually pressing both triggers, Back, and Black together. Yes. Play a game, use button commands then on reboot it hangs on the Cerbios splash screen until I power cycle the power button Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjab Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 48 minutes ago, MadMartigan said: What cluster size did you choose before formatting? Ideally you’d want 256k for 4TB I believe. 512k is more for above 4TB. I want to say I did 256. Is there anyway to check after the fact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 See if you get the same behavior with a UDMA2 BIOS. Also, have a look at the motherboard caps. Maybe take a pic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjab Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 10 minutes ago, Marty said: See if you get the same behavior with a UDMA2 BIOS. Also, have a look at the motherboard caps. Maybe take a pic. I did the udma2 bios. It was worse. Caps are good. I replaced them.. also thermals are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyMaGee Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, monkeyjab said: I want to say I did 256. Is there anyway to check after the fact? You can use XBPartitioner to check the cluster sizes of your partitions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMartigan Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 12 hours ago, monkeyjab said: I did the udma2 bios. It was worse. Caps are good. I replaced them.. also thermals are good. You DO NOT want to use UDMA2. That is for stock IDE HDDs. You want UDMA5-7. I recommend trying 6 since you’re using a Startech adapter and an 80 wire IDE cable. And as mentioned above, check your cluster sizes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikeymikey Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 15 hours ago, monkeyjab said: I want to say I did 256. Is there anyway to check after the fact? If you formatted the drive with FatXplorer it should have selected the correct cluster size for your drive automatically. Mine did for my 6tb drive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMartigan Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Can you take a picture of the adapter and HDD while everything is hooked up please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjab Posted February 2 Author Report Share Posted February 2 23 hours ago, nikeymikey said: If you formatted the drive with FatXplorer it should have selected the correct cluster size for your drive automatically. Mine did for my 6tb drive. I did use that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjab Posted February 2 Author Report Share Posted February 2 14 hours ago, MadMartigan said: Can you take a picture of the adapter and HDD while everything is hooked up please? Will do. Give me a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dempsey_86 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 (edited) On 2/1/2024 at 3:31 PM, MadMartigan said: You DO NOT want to use UDMA2. That is for stock IDE HDDs. You want UDMA5-7. I recommend trying 6 since you’re using a Startech adapter and an 80 wire IDE cable. And as mentioned above, check your cluster sizes. If there are problems, then it is advised to test with udma2 to see if the problem goes away. The higher udma settings can be unstable with some adaptors. FYI udma 7 is not supported by the ogxbox. The highest you can get is udma 6. What I would do is test without a dvd drive to see if it is the dvd drive. I know some samsung dvd drives are not happy paired with a startech adaptor. Edited February 2 by Dempsey_86 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 15 minutes ago, Dempsey_86 said: If there are problems, then it is advised to test with udma2 to see if the problem goes away. The higher udma settings can be unstable with some adaptors. FYI udma 7 is not supported by the ogxbox. The highest you can get is udma 6. What I would do is test without a dvd drive to see if it is the dvd drive. I know some samsung dvd drives are not happy paired with a startech adaptor. Yeah, If I'm not mistaken, Phillips drives have that issue. I have not found a reason why. Safe Mode in Cerbios uses UDMA-2 for diagnostic situations just like this. Pressing eject with a UDMA-6 version of Cerbios will prompt a Safe Mode boot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMartigan Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Dempsey_86 said: If there are problems, then it is advised to test with udma2 to see if the problem goes away. The higher udma settings can be unstable with some adaptors. FYI udma 7 is not supported by the ogxbox. The highest you can get is udma 6. What I would do is test without a dvd drive to see if it is the dvd drive. I know some samsung dvd drives are not happy paired with a startech adaptor. Sorry, I’m on mobile 90% of the time and on the go. If he wanted to test then safe mode would utilize the UDMA2 no? Anyways, the OP did already state that UDMA 2 made things worse with his setup. I’m very curious to see a picture of what he has on his end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjab Posted February 3 Author Report Share Posted February 3 It's was formatted 128. Rebuilt the HDD with 256. That seems to eliminate the issue. I've in game rebooted about 40 times today with one crash. I also have a Thompson drive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjab Posted February 3 Author Report Share Posted February 3 Picture of install Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjab Posted February 3 Author Report Share Posted February 3 View of adapter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMartigan Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 (edited) 13 minutes ago, monkeyjab said: It's was formatted 128. Rebuilt the HDD with 256. That seems to eliminate the issue. I've in game rebooted about 40 times today with one crash. I also have a Thompson drive. That's great! Many times it is the simple things that are overlooked. I'm definitely guilty myself which is why that was my first suggestion. Happy gaming. In addition, sometimes people say they have a startech adapter when they're just mistaking any sata adapter. Wanted to be sure that's what you actually had. Edited February 3 by MadMartigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjab Posted February 3 Author Report Share Posted February 3 8 minutes ago, MadMartigan said: That's great! Many times it is the simple things that are overlooked. I'm definitely guilty myself which is why that was my first suggestion. Happy gaming. In addition, sometimes people say they have a startech adapter when they're just mistaking any sata adapter. Wanted to be sure that's what you actually had. Definitely appreciate all the help from everyone. I'm just getting into Xbox modding coming from PS2 and GameCube, so still learning my way. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, monkeyjab said: Definitely appreciate all the help from everyone. I'm just getting into Xbox modding coming from PS2 and GameCube, so still learning my way. Thanks again But why would cluster size cause crashing like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMartigan Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Coming from the wizard himself 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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