DARK A Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 hello everyone i finished rgh 1.2 my falcon 360 everything is working except the dvd drive it dosnt seem to make the console glitch it just stuck in loop so i removed anyway i was thinking of cooling the memory so i added a thermal pad and heat sinks to these , (ps not my picture ) and after that it doesn't recognize any hdd connected i try the hdd in another console its fully working i removed the pads same problem what can be the problem ps i got a new psu since someone told me that maybe my old psu is faulty (after i added the pads i didnt try the console with old psu so i dont know is it the new psu that killed the port or is it pads or somthing else ?) and its much higher watt 203watt i try it in a diffrent console before trying it on this console and didnt have problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopenator Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 This an OG Xbox forum. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK A Posted January 24 Author Report Share Posted January 24 40 minutes ago, lopenator said: This an OG Xbox forum. yeah i know but most people here know a lot about 360 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlsnapper Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, DARK A said: hello everyone i finished rgh 1.2 my falcon 360 everything is working except the dvd drive it dosnt seem to make the console glitch it just stuck in loop so i removed anyway i was thinking of cooling the memory so i added a thermal pad and heat sinks to these , (ps not my picture ) and after that it doesn't recognize any hdd connected i try the hdd in another console its fully working i removed the pads same problem what can be the problem ps i got a new psu since someone told me that maybe my old psu is faulty (after i added the pads i didnt try the console with old psu so i dont know is it the new psu that killed the port or is it pads or somthing else ?) and its much higher watt 203watt i try it in a diffrent console before trying it on this console and didnt have problems Are you SURE this HDD is still good? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikeymikey Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, DARK A said: yeah i know but most people here know a lot about 360 Not really, You would be better off in a 360 specific site. However.... I do know that power supplies do DIFFER between different revisions of 360. Not only do the plugs differ slightly but the wattage differs too so there is a possibility you have fried your console. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK A Posted January 24 Author Report Share Posted January 24 47 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said: Are you SURE this HDD is still good? yes i try different hdd same thing it doesn't show up in storage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK A Posted January 24 Author Report Share Posted January 24 48 minutes ago, nikeymikey said: Not really, You would be better off in a 360 specific site. However.... I do know that power supplies do DIFFER between different revisions of 360. Not only do the plugs differ slightly but the wattage differs too so there is a possibility you have fried your console. it has more wattage but its the same as old one 12v , if i did really fried it what can i do ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikeymikey Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, DARK A said: it has more wattage but its the same as old one 12v , if i did really fried it what can i do ? If it IS fried then not a lot other than to find the blown components and replace them one by one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 4 hours ago, DARK A said: the dvd drive it dosnt seem to make the console glitch Why would the DVD drive make the console glitch? Can you boot into Xell by starting the machine with the EJECT button? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopenator Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Marty said: Why would the DVD drive make the console glitch? Can you boot into Xell by starting the machine with the EJECT button? exactly what I was thinking. The DVD drive doesnt make rgh consoles glitch. Edited January 24 by lopenator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK A Posted January 24 Author Report Share Posted January 24 3 hours ago, nikeymikey said: If it IS fried then not a lot other than to find the blown components and replace them one by one. can i use external drive as the main drive for the console via usb ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK A Posted January 24 Author Report Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, Marty said: Why would the DVD drive make the console glitch? Can you boot into Xell by starting the machine with the EJECT button? i didnt mean it make it glitch i mean it doesnt make it glitch and no it doesnt boot to xell if its connected i have to unplug it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 Lets see some pics of your wiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringle Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 (edited) Sounds like your wiring isn't all that good. The console should glitch with the dvd drive connected. Only reason it wouldn't is due to it drawing extra power or something along those lines which leads back to your wiring. Shorten your wires and try different resistor values. As for the HDD not working, it sounds like you borked the port. Try blowing it out with compressed air or looking for any shorts on the pins. Could possibly be also related to it not booting with the dvd drive attached since they both connect to the SATA bus. Go over the entire board with a fine tooth comb and make sure there are no solder bridges/shorts. Post high res pictures so someone else can take a look and possibly pick up something you don't see. Edited January 25 by Fringle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK A Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 (edited) 20 hours ago, nikeymikey said: If it IS fried then not a lot other than to find the blown components and replace them one by one. how to do that ? and btw i have zero knowledge in electricity 14 hours ago, Marty said: Lets see some pics of your wiring. here you go https://imgur.com/b1ERupR https://imgur.com/b1ERupR https://imgur.com/gXlP1lH https://imgur.com/fEtExEX https://imgur.com/lsKKmgw https://imgur.com/BnqvA0E https://imgur.com/Ahw2jyu https://imgur.com/PVokFRS https://imgur.com/6NGOyed https://imgur.com/lNwzf6W https://imgur.com/29fvzkz 10 hours ago, Fringle said: Sounds like your wiring isn't all that good. The console should glitch with the dvd drive connected. Only reason it wouldn't is due to it drawing extra power or something along those lines which leads back to your wiring. Shorten your wires and try different resistor values. As for the HDD not working, it sounds like you borked the port. Try blowing it out with compressed air or looking for any shorts on the pins. Could possibly be also related to it not booting with the dvd drive attached since they both connect to the SATA bus. Go over the entire board with a fine tooth comb and make sure there are no solder bridges/shorts. Post high res pictures so someone else can take a look and possibly pick up something you don't see. im using rgh 1.2 so no resister im using cool runner how to look for shorts on the pins and which pin is that its been booting before i added thermal pads and heatsinks to memory and before using the new psu only the dvd will not make the console boot it make cool runner blinking green forever btw its fat not slim so i dont think its sata bus Edited January 25 by DARK A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikeymikey Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 That's some flamethrower soldering on that cool runner. I would redo all those joints with leaded solder and PLENTY of flux. This will give you much cleaner connections there. Also the connections on the motherboard itself, are they soldered or just held in place with that tape? I would try and get a correct power supply for your model just to be certain that isn't causing an issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK A Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 6 minutes ago, nikeymikey said: That's some flamethrower soldering on that cool runner. I would redo all those joints with leaded solder and PLENTY of flux. This will give you much cleaner connections there. Also the connections on the motherboard itself, are they soldered or just held in place with that tape? I would try and get a correct power supply for your model just to be certain that isn't causing an issue. lol no they are soldered i can glitch the console without dvd and play games from arura no problem, before the hdd problem started now i can launch aurora from external hdd no problem only if there is no dvd so you think it could be my coolrunner soldering is the problem ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikeymikey Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 Might be a silly question.... But why don't you just leave the DVD drive out of the system if it works and you can play games on Aurora without it? I haven't used the DVD in my 360 in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK A Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 (edited) 10 minutes ago, nikeymikey said: Might be a silly question.... But why don't you just leave the DVD drive out of the system if it works and you can play games on Aurora without it? I haven't used the DVD in my 360 in years. i was going to do that and i put thermal pads on the memory and got a new psu and i was ready to put it back toghter untill i found out the hdd is not working the weird thing is i have another retail flacon i did test the psu with had no problem everything is working i was thinking maybe the pad the heatsinks caused some short to something im not electrician so i dont know to figure it out . btw thanks for the replay Edited January 25 by DARK A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringle Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 All 360's use SATA for the DVD and hdd. It's not just limited to slims, with the Phat console it's just a custom eSATA connector for the hdd. Take a good quality picture of the HDD connector and pin header solder. Could be a bridge or missing component from the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK A Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 On 1/24/2024 at 8:07 PM, Bowlsnapper said: Are you SURE this HDD is still good? On 1/25/2024 at 2:59 AM, Marty said: Lets see some pics of your wiring. 18 hours ago, nikeymikey said: That's some flamethrower soldering on that cool runner. I would redo all those joints with leaded solder and PLENTY of flux. This will give you much cleaner connections there. Also the connections on the motherboard itself, are they soldered or just held in place with that tape? I would try and get a correct power supply for your model just to be certain that isn't causing an issue. 7 hours ago, Fringle said: All 360's use SATA for the DVD and hdd. It's not just limited to slims, with the Phat console it's just a custom eSATA connector for the hdd. Take a good quality picture of the HDD connector and pin header solder. Could be a bridge or missing component from the board. sorry everyone for the inconvenience but let me explain what happened i didn't look inside the port with a camera because i already cleaned it with 99% alchool and a toothbrush two times so i thought there was no need to look at it but thanks to allah then fringle for his replay i took a picture inside the port and look what i found a piece of plastic how did it get here and where did it come from ? my guess is its from the one who owned it before maybe it was on top and after multiple connecting and disconnecting it fall after i removed it the hdd working no problem thank allah so thank you everyone so much and sorry for the inconvenience im gonna just disconnect the dvd and use the console without it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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