xbox360 hdd port problem or ?

[DARK A]

hello everyone

i finished rgh 1.2 my  falcon 360

everything is working except the dvd drive it dosnt seem to make the console glitch it just  stuck in loop so i removed anyway 

i  was thinking of cooling the memory so i added a thermal pad and heat  sinks  to these , (ps not my picture )

and after that it doesn't recognize any hdd  connected i try the hdd in another console its fully working

i removed the pads same problem

what can be the problem

ps i got a new psu since someone told me that maybe my old psu is faulty (after i added the pads i didnt try the console with old psu so i dont know is it the new psu that  killed the port or is it pads or somthing else ?)  and its  much higher watt 203watt i try it in a diffrent console before trying it on this console and didnt have problems

[lopenator]

This an OG Xbox forum.

[DARK A]

40 minutes ago, lopenator said:

This an OG Xbox forum.

yeah i know but most  people here know a lot about 360

[Bowlsnapper]

2 hours ago, DARK A said:

hello everyone

i finished rgh 1.2 my  falcon 360

everything is working except the dvd drive it dosnt seem to make the console glitch it just  stuck in loop so i removed anyway 

i  was thinking of cooling the memory so i added a thermal pad and heat  sinks  to these , (ps not my picture )

and after that it doesn't recognize any hdd  connected i try the hdd in another console its fully working

i removed the pads same problem

what can be the problem

ps i got a new psu since someone told me that maybe my old psu is faulty (after i added the pads i didnt try the console with old psu so i dont know is it the new psu that  killed the port or is it pads or somthing else ?)  and its  much higher watt 203watt i try it in a diffrent console before trying it on this console and didnt have problems

Are you SURE this HDD is still good?

[nikeymikey]

1 hour ago, DARK A said:

yeah i know but most  people here know a lot about 360

Not really, You would be better off in a 360 specific site. 

However.... I do know that power supplies do DIFFER between different revisions of 360. Not only do the plugs differ slightly but the wattage differs too so there is a possibility you have fried your console. 

[DARK A]

47 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said:

Are you SURE this HDD is still good?

yes i try different hdd same thing it doesn't show  up in  storage

[DARK A]

48 minutes ago, nikeymikey said:

Not really, You would be better off in a 360 specific site. 

However.... I do know that power supplies do DIFFER between different revisions of 360. Not only do the plugs differ slightly but the wattage differs too so there is a possibility you have fried your console. 

it has more wattage but its the same as old one 12v ,

if i did really fried it what can i do ?

[nikeymikey]

1 minute ago, DARK A said:

it has more wattage but its the same as old one 12v ,

if i did really fried it what can i do ?

If it IS fried then not a lot other than to find the blown components and replace them one by one. 

[Marty]

4 hours ago, DARK A said:

the dvd drive it dosnt seem to make the console glitch

Why would the DVD drive make the console glitch? Can you boot into Xell by starting the machine with the EJECT button?

[lopenator]

10 minutes ago, Marty said:

Why would the DVD drive make the console glitch? Can you boot into Xell by starting the machine with the EJECT button?

exactly what I was thinking. The DVD drive doesnt make rgh consoles glitch.

Edited January 24 by lopenator

[DARK A]

3 hours ago, nikeymikey said:

If it IS fried then not a lot other than to find the blown components and replace them one by one. 

can i use external drive as the main drive for the console via usb ?

[DARK A]

2 hours ago, Marty said:

Why would the DVD drive make the console glitch? Can you boot into Xell by starting the machine with the EJECT button?

i didnt mean it make it glitch i mean it doesnt  make it  glitch and no it doesnt boot to xell if its  connected i have to unplug it

[Marty]

Lets see some pics of your wiring.

[Fringle]

Sounds like your wiring isn't all that good.  The console should glitch with the dvd drive connected.  Only reason it wouldn't is due to it drawing extra power or something along those lines which leads back to your wiring.  Shorten your wires and try different resistor values.  As for the HDD not working, it sounds like you borked the port.  Try blowing it out with compressed air or looking for any shorts on the pins.  Could possibly be also related to it not booting with the dvd drive attached since they both connect to the SATA bus.  Go over the entire board with a fine tooth comb and make sure there are no solder bridges/shorts.  Post high res pictures so someone else can take a look and possibly pick up something you don't see.

Edited January 25 by Fringle

[DARK A]

20 hours ago, nikeymikey said:

If it IS fried then not a lot other than to find the blown components and replace them one by one. 

how to do that ? and btw i have zero knowledge in electricity

 

14 hours ago, Marty said:

Lets see some pics of your wiring.

here you go

https://imgur.com/b1ERupR

https://imgur.com/b1ERupR

https://imgur.com/gXlP1lH

https://imgur.com/fEtExEX

https://imgur.com/lsKKmgw

https://imgur.com/BnqvA0E

https://imgur.com/Ahw2jyu

https://imgur.com/PVokFRS

https://imgur.com/6NGOyed

https://imgur.com/lNwzf6W

https://imgur.com/29fvzkz

10 hours ago, Fringle said:

Sounds like your wiring isn't all that good.  The console should glitch with the dvd drive connected.  Only reason it wouldn't is due to it drawing extra power or something along those lines which leads back to your wiring.  Shorten your wires and try different resistor values.  As for the HDD not working, it sounds like you borked the port.  Try blowing it out with compressed air or looking for any shorts on the pins.  Could possibly be also related to it not booting with the dvd drive attached since they both connect to the SATA bus.  Go over the entire board with a fine tooth comb and make sure there are no solder bridges/shorts.  Post high res pictures so someone else can take a look and possibly pick up something you don't see.

im using rgh 1.2 so no resister im using cool runner

how to look for shorts on the pins and which pin is that

its been booting before  i added thermal pads and  heatsinks to memory and before using the new psu

only the dvd will not make the console boot it make cool runner  blinking green forever

btw its fat not slim so i dont think its sata bus

Edited January 25 by DARK A

[nikeymikey]

That's some flamethrower soldering on that cool runner.  

I would redo all those joints with leaded solder and PLENTY of flux. This will give you much cleaner connections there. 

Also the connections on the motherboard itself, are they soldered or just held in place with that tape? 

I would try and get a correct power supply for your model just to be certain that isn't causing an issue. 

[DARK A]

6 minutes ago, nikeymikey said:

That's some flamethrower soldering on that cool runner.  

I would redo all those joints with leaded solder and PLENTY of flux. This will give you much cleaner connections there. 

Also the connections on the motherboard itself, are they soldered or just held in place with that tape? 

I would try and get a correct power supply for your model just to be certain that isn't causing an issue. 

lol

no they are soldered  i can  glitch the console without dvd and play games from arura no  problem,

before the hdd problem started  now i can  launch  aurora from external  hdd no problem only if there is no dvd

so you think it could be my coolrunner soldering is the problem ?

[nikeymikey]

Might be a silly question.... But why don't you just leave the DVD drive out of the system if it works and you can play games on Aurora without it?

I haven't used the DVD in my 360 in years. 

[DARK A]

10 minutes ago, nikeymikey said:

Might be a silly question.... But why don't you just leave the DVD drive out of the system if it works and you can play games on Aurora without it?

I haven't used the DVD in my 360 in years. 

i was going to do that  and i put thermal pads on the memory and  got a new psu  and  i was ready  to  put it back toghter untill i found out the  hdd  is  not working

the weird thing is  i have another retail flacon i did test the psu with had no problem everything is working

i was thinking maybe the pad the heatsinks  caused some short to something im not electrician so i dont know to figure it out  .

btw thanks for the replay

Edited January 25 by DARK A

[Fringle]

All 360's use SATA for the DVD and hdd.  It's not just limited to slims, with the Phat console it's just a custom eSATA connector for the hdd.  Take a good quality picture of the HDD connector and pin header solder.  Could be a bridge or missing component from the board.

[DARK A]

On 1/24/2024 at 8:07 PM, Bowlsnapper said:

Are you SURE this HDD is still good?

 

On 1/25/2024 at 2:59 AM, Marty said:

Lets see some pics of your wiring.

 

18 hours ago, nikeymikey said:

That's some flamethrower soldering on that cool runner.  

I would redo all those joints with leaded solder and PLENTY of flux. This will give you much cleaner connections there. 

Also the connections on the motherboard itself, are they soldered or just held in place with that tape? 

I would try and get a correct power supply for your model just to be certain that isn't causing an issue. 

 

7 hours ago, Fringle said:

All 360's use SATA for the DVD and hdd.  It's not just limited to slims, with the Phat console it's just a custom eSATA connector for the hdd.  Take a good quality picture of the HDD connector and pin header solder.  Could be a bridge or missing component from the board.

sorry everyone for the inconvenience but let me explain what  happened  

i  didn't look inside the port with a camera because i already cleaned it with 99% alchool and a toothbrush two times  so i thought there was no need to look at it

but thanks to allah then fringle for his replay i took a picture inside the port and look what  i found a piece of plastic how did it get here and where did it come from ?

my guess is its from the one who owned it before maybe it was on top and after multiple connecting and disconnecting it fall

after  i removed it the hdd working no problem thank allah

so thank you everyone so much and sorry for the inconvenience

im gonna just disconnect the dvd and use the console without it