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Okay, firstly this is not a problem with Rocky's code per se, it's a problem with the XBMC code going back 18 years when the issue first appeared. I did flag it at the time and a few other softmod users on the forums (XBMC and Xbox-scene) did too. Full debug logs were provided but Gemini's dev Xbox was messed up after a RAM replacement so he couldn't test it. I ended up fixing it myself and did so into 2010 until I switched fully over to Xbox 360 and PS3. I've only recently started using my Xbox again to discover the bug still exists in new XBMC iterations. This bug only affects softmods patching kernels from the Conexant and Focus video encoder machines. So if you have a 1.6 (Xcalibur encoder) this won't affect you as Rocky has added some code which makes v1.6's work perfect with Cherry's eeprom-safe video-mode patch code on a softmodded 1.6 (it never used to). The code for the pre v1.6 kernels seems to screw up after a soft reboot. Also the bug doesn't affect using BFM bioses on a softmod, or if you compiled NKPatcher to do a 'full reboot' rather than a 'reboot to dash'. Here's how to reproduce the bug: Make sure sure you have enabled 'Enable video mode switching' in the XBMC4Gamers menu as we're going to boot at 50hz only game on an NTSC machine (or PAL machine set to NTSC) and vice versa ( a PAL machine booting an NTSC game), then repeat the boot process. Leave the 'For 60hz games' setting to 'Use NTSC-M & NTSC-J'. On an NTSC machine navigate to a 50hz only game (like Sensible Soccer 2006, SCAR or one of those Club Football games) and press 'white'. Make sure it it says 'Launch PAL' (if not select 'Launch in..', then select PAL). The game will launch fine in 576i. Now do an IGR back to dash. Now try to launch the game again (or any other 50hz only game). It will display a black screen and a rapidly expanding log file in XBMC that reads something like this (debug): 22:01:19 M: 44838912 NOTICE: Unmapped drive D 22:01:19 M: 44838912 NOTICE: Mapping drive D to Harddisk0\Partition6\Games\Scar - Squadra Corse Alfa Romeo (Pal) 22:01:19 M: 44838912 INFO: Mounting Harddisk0\Partition6\Games\Scar - Squadra Corse Alfa Romeo (Pal) as D: 22:01:19 M: 44838912 INFO: Launching xbe:d:\default.xbe 22:01:19 M: 44838912 DEBUG: Forcing video mode: 3 22:01:19 M: 44847104 ERROR: exception in CApplication::FrameMove() 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10013 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10014 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10015 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10016 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10017 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10018 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10019 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10107 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10115 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10104 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 NOTICE: unload sections 22:01:19 M: 44847104 NOTICE: application stopped... 22:01:19 M: 44847104 NOTICE: Running the application... 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10013 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10014 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10015 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10016 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10017 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10018 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10019 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10107 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10115 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10104 from the window manager when it didn't exist 22:01:19 M: 44847104 NOTICE: unload sections 22:01:19 M: 44847104 NOTICE: application stopped... 22:01:19 M: 44847104 NOTICE: Running the application... etc.. etc... (constantly looping) You have to power off and run the game from a fresh boot. To test the bug on a PAL machine (not a PAL machine set to NTSC) booting an NTSC game, again make sure you have enabled 'Enable video mode switching' in the menu. Select an NTSC only version of a game. We'll use the US version of Halo.. Navigate to the game and press 'white'. Make sure it it says 'Launch NTSC' (if not select 'Launch in..', then select NTSC). The game will launch fine. Now do an IGR back to dash. Now try to launch Halo again (or any other NTSC game). It will display a black screen and again a rapidly expanding log file: 20:41:33 M: 48623616 NOTICE: Unmapped drive D 20:41:33 M: 48623616 NOTICE: Mapping drive D to Harddisk0\Partition6\Games\Halo Combat Evolved (Usa) 20:41:33 M: 48623616 INFO: Mounting Harddisk0\Partition6\Games\Halo Combat Evolved (Usa) as D: 20:41:33 M: 48623616 INFO: Launching xbe:d:\default.xbe 20:41:33 M: 48623616 DEBUG: Forcing video mode: 1 20:41:33 M: 48652288 ERROR: exception in CApplication::FrameMove() 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10013 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10014 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10015 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10016 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10017 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10018 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10019 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10107 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10115 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10104 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 NOTICE: unload sections 20:41:33 M: 48652288 NOTICE: application stopped... 20:41:33 M: 48652288 NOTICE: Running the application... 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10013 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10014 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10015 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10016 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10017 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10018 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10019 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10107 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10115 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10104 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:41:33 M: 48652288 NOTICE: unload sections 20:41:33 M: 48652288 NOTICE: application stopped... 20:41:33 M: 48652288 NOTICE: Running the application... etc.. etc... (constantly looping) Same process using US/NTSC version of Broken Sword on a PAL machine, but testing PAL-60 instead. Works first boot, then after soft reset and loading the game again, black screen: 20:47:25 M: 47874048 NOTICE: Unmapped drive D 20:47:25 M: 47874048 NOTICE: Mapping drive D to Harddisk0\Partition6\Games\Broken Sword - The Sleeping Dragon (Usa) 20:47:25 M: 47874048 INFO: Mounting Harddisk0\Partition6\Games\Broken Sword - The Sleeping Dragon (Usa) as D: 20:47:25 M: 47874048 INFO: Launching xbe:d:\default.xbe 20:47:25 M: 47874048 DEBUG: Forcing video mode: 4 20:47:25 M: 47882240 ERROR: exception in CApplication::FrameMove() 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10013 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10014 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10015 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10016 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10017 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10018 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10019 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10107 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10115 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10104 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 NOTICE: unload sections 20:47:25 M: 47882240 NOTICE: application stopped... 20:47:25 M: 47882240 NOTICE: Running the application... 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10013 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10014 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10015 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10016 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10017 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10018 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10019 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10107 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10115 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 WARNING: Attempted to remove window 10104 from the window manager when it didn't exist 20:47:25 M: 47882240 NOTICE: unload sections 20:47:25 M: 47882240 NOTICE: application stopped... 20:47:25 M: 47882240 NOTICE: Running the application... etc.. etc... (constantly looping) The current ways to negate this are: After you've run one PAL 50hz game (or pure NTSC game for PAL users) and rebooted back to dash, do a 'Reboot' from the XBMC4Gamers options menu (black button). Now the game will work fine. Another way is to recompile your NKPatcher like so: %define IGR ; %define IGR_TO_DASHBOARD %define IGR_FULL_REBOOT ; %define IGR_MASTER_PORT 0 Bear in mind this will auto detach any ISO you may have mounted when you do an In-Game-reset, so you won't be able to browse any mounted virtual discs. Also, this method means each IGR does a full reboot, so it will take longer to get back into XBMC4Gamers. Or you can use the linked xbe which fixes these issues on pre v1.6 kernels. I modified and compiled from Rocky's latest sources for his v2.0.004 release. Just overwrite the 'default.xbe' in the XBMC4Gamers folder and power cycle your Xbox (you need to power cycle as XBMC caches itself to a virtual drive). XBMC4Gamers 2.0.004 default.xbe fix
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Hi, I created a dual BIOS using "X2 BIOS Manager v2.3" for my Xecuter 2.3b lite modchip. Bank 1 is Cerbios using UDMA5 and Bank 2 is Cromwell to allow recovery if I flash a dodgy BIOS in the future. Both banks work fine, Cerbios boots normally also. I've tried various flash programs (Xblast OS, Gentoox) on my OG Xbox itself, and get the same issue, Cerbios won't start Safe Mode, which as far as I know should use UDMA2, but I don't know what else it requires. Cerbios.ini is on C:\ and looks fine, it is in use when booting Cerbios normally, the dash list is correct. I want to make sure Cerbios Safe Mode works for an extra backup facility, and ideally want a backup bios bank, for if I upload a bios that the Xbox doesn't like in the future. Maybe a bit overly cautious I feel I'm 95% there, just don't know how Safe Mode works, and what it checks for. Thanks
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Hi, Finally got some time to get back to the old Xbox, so first thing on my list was to update the BIOS from X2 v5035 to Cerbios v2.3.1. Modified the BIOS first in Cerbios Tool v1.2.2 to set UDMA6 as I have a Startech and 80wire. Also changed Drive Setup to HDD&DVD (mode 0) in case I want to boot from DVD, and changed Dash path 1 to C:\unleashx.xbe. Flashed to my Xecuter2 modchip. Uploaded the BootAnims folder and put a cerbios.ini (with same settings) in the root of C:. A press of the power button and it boots fine, but I don't get the blue dogs screen first, just straight to the blue/purple machine startup, then the big X, then loads the unleashx dash. Everything works fine after that as it did before. Next, I wanted to test Safe Mode, so a powered on using the Eject button. The tray opens, the LED ring turns red, the blue dogs appear this time with the words Safe Mode at the top, but thats it. It freezes on this screen. I notice it says in the notes that Safe Mode doesn't work on Xenium modchips, but this is an X2 so it should, right? So 2 problems really: No dogs on normal power on (but everything else works). Safe mode doesn't work. Any clues what I might be doing wrong? Thanks
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I've got 2 xboxes, one X3 with the inbuilt menu and one slim no-dvd xbox. I'm getting deja vu that I've had this problem before and managed to solve it. In the X3: - It powers on, I was able to get into the X3 menu by holding the white controller button, no issues. - But I wasn't able to get into my dashboard (i know it works, I used it a few months back - and I can see the game titles / menu titles on the LCD screen) - I remembered the issue was something to do with the region/video mode not matching, so I think I switched the region to PAL 480i initially directly via the X3 menu and managed to get into the dashboard. All my games etc everything is working fine, but only in 480i now. - So I go to enigmah X and switch back to NTSC thinking this would allow me to go back to 720p, no dice, now the X3 menu won't show up (again, I can see it loading correctly via the LCD screen, there's just no video out) - I tried switching to a SCART cable to try "force" PAL mode again, and I can see via OSSC's readout that i'm getting 480i but again there's no video out. What can I do here? I vaguely recall that using a composite cable somehow hardware-forced it back to default 480i and fixed this issue. The slim: - Powers on, loads up, works fine, OSSC says 720p out, can't see anything obviously wrong with it - The picture is blurry. Literally just very blurry. I've tried switching back and forth between 480/720p and it's still extremely blurry, I really can't explain why. Last time I used it the picture was crystal clear. Please help you guys!
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hi all, been getting stuff together to mess with the wasabi ode, nearly got a fine going to the storage place(sodding lockdown), luckily i had been shopping too so the law let me off. anyway as i was getting stuff together i had a thought, does the ogxbox play mixed mode disks?, thats the back door that allows the wasabi to pass isos to the xbox. i'm still going to try it though either way since you never know till you try. thanks, aly.
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Hey, I have two modded OG XBox, one with Chip, one with TSOP, if i play "EU" Games on the XBox with TSOP they run in german language, If I play them on the XBox with Chip, they run in english (same games). Both XBox are set to "german" in MS-Dashboard, they are both set to NTSC Console with Enigmah-X. Any idea why this is and how I can do the same to my chipped XBox? They use different Bios, the chipped one showes "Xcecuter" at the start, the TSOP showes "openXY" not sure right now but something with "open", and the TSOP one has a blue XBOX Logo at the startup, it's no longer green. (Didn't do the TSOP by myself. Any help would be good!
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Dear All, I currently own 2 xbox, one 1.4 and one 1.2 motherboard revision, both work fine, but on 1.2 I see vertical lines, when running on Pal Interlaced modes (480i) since the graphics chip is different, Focus vs Conexant, has anyone experience the same? Both mobos have latest Ind_Bios 5004.67, brand new caps and thermals replaced
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Dear users, I'm about to tsop a 1.4 Xbox PAL, already own a composite cable, however is very well know that Xbox only display HD options on NTSC, after tsop I'm going to upgrade my HDD through latest hexen 2018, but to make HD options available should I install new NTSC HDD or PAL? I read of a app that changes that on the system what is the best solution for a brand new system? Thanks
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