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27 minutes ago, nerdbombing said:
I'm writing this up to share the experiences I have while going down this rabbit hole. I spoke with @KaosEngineerto get a better footing, and turns out there is far less then I thought there was on this topic, so I want to help others out who may find themselves in this boat.
To clarify, the goal is to have original feel and operability of the original consoles on a modded XBOX's emulator. If I want to play NES Mario Bro's, it would feel and work better with an NES controller, same with Mario Kart for SNES, and Sonic on SEGA. But hell, most folks, especially us OGXBOX diehards, have no real issue with using a Duke to smash up blocks or grab coins, so I would consider this venture applicable to purists and those looking to satisfy house guests who want original feel of retro consoles.
The first and best option looks to be the RetroPad Adapter by Bruno. If you have the money to grab this item, it should be worth it to save from making one from scratch. I opted not to go this route because of the cost, which is over $70 after it's shipped. I thought that was too much for hooking up a single controller, but others may see the value or be able to source and construct them locally for less. http://www.brunofreitas.com/node/41 http://shop.brunofreitas.com/
This link will take you to the git files for self constructing. Which, after looking to source al the parts, realized this too, was not a route for me. But for some, this is a great resource. https://github.com/bootsector/usb-retropad-adapter
Why can't you just take an old XBOX controller plug and splice it to the retro controller? Well, tbh I don't know the technical stuff 100% but essentially the retro controllers are simple switches, where as the XBOX controllers have more circuitry in them and are controlled much like a USB keyboard. So a simple "patch" cable from retro to XBOX won't work, I've been told.
Here's a resource on making an NES controller to USB using a USB keybard circuit. I've been told this won't work on the XBOX as it's USB meant for PC, same story with the second link. https://www.instructables.com/Make-a-USB-NES-Controller/ https://www.ebay.com/itm/NES-SNES-SFC-Controller-Adapter-Converter-to-USB-for-PC-Mac-PS3-Mayflash-New/164273318506?epid=2255282999&hash=item263f73ea6a:g:xyAAAOSw6oBXEj6k
Now this link looked so promising, but unfortunately I can't actually find the article. The links on the site deadend or are misdirected. If someone can find the rest of this article (or a way to contact Phillip Torrone), it could save me and anyone else in my boat, some serious leg work!! https://makezine.com/2006/04/11/how-to-nes-controller-for/
If you're still reading, it means you aren't liking, or are still seeking alternatives to, the retropad adapter. I hope to be able to help and, if anything, my mistakes will help you to avoid them. My current plan of attack is to simply bash an old XBOX controller into a cheap NES controller. Both of which can be found for less the $20 from local game stores, craigslist, or ebay to name a few sources. This first post is to test the waters, see if anyone else has valuable info on the subject. But as life permits, I will be documenting my struggles as I get into the soldering and bashing with pics and details.
Most people don't realize this but plugging a device in via USB does nothing. The machine you're plugging the USB device into needs to have a piece of software that tells it how to communicate with and use the device being plugged into it. This piece of software is called a driver and it's specific to the device being plugged in.
So, Xbox drivers are not the same as windows drivers and they are built into the kernel. Adding drivers IS possible but it would be difficult and require an extremely high level of expertise. -
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Yes. You can actually order the chips from a particular supplier brand new instead of desoldering first. That should make it easier. It's quite difficult though but can be done.
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Awesome man! Welcome!
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Welcome!
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Welcome! What do you need assistance with?
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Welcome! Modding takes on a whole new love for the same devices. It's difficult to explain but I'm very glad you took the plunge.
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Beautiful Xbox! Welcome!
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Welcome! I'm very glad to meet you and willing to assist in any way I can.
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Welcome! If you can just get it to read the game disk a single time you're good to go. Let us know if you need some assistance.
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I'm not sure how the bios patching works... but you may lose the ability to access half of your ram by doing so. It completely depends on what gets patched. I wouldn't do it if it were me. Just extract the isos.
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What are the symptoms?
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Awesome! Glad to have you.Hey.. Nice to see the OG Xbox is alive and well.
Got into OG Xbox when XEcuter 3 was released and got straight into installing one in mine. Went the whole hog and installed LCD and replacement front panel and a 500GB drive. Good with a soldering iron and mod all my own stuff (plus a few mates) [emoji4]
Still got it to this day but it's a little worse for ware now.. dunno whats up with it. Time for a new working board me thinks.
Think I'll like it here.
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Board startup date: April 23, 2017 12:45:48
Retro controllers for emulators, NES, SNES, SEGA, etc.
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If I had to guess, I'd say the board is an original xbox controller trimmed to fit in a snes controller case with the buttons wired up where the other buttons used to be. I think that is also what they were doing in that article you posted.