[Network Hub Vs Switch]

1.0 xbox + 1.6 xbox. 

Switch is just a dell x1026.
I have also tested with 10 other switches since then of various makes and models. They all work exactly the same.  

 

[Network Hub Vs Switch]

32 minutes ago, xicat487 said:

Thank you I just want to know if I'm crazy or not. 

Brute Force - The second xbox saw the host xbox's game instantly. literally 0 delay in finding it. 

[Network Hub Vs Switch]

9 hours ago, xicat487 said:

I will check this Xbox  I do not believe the NIC is dead.

To make sure a ripped game file was not a fault, I bought extra 2 copies for a total of 3 DVDs

All copies were verified on 3 stock v1.6 in system link no issues.

The modded xboxes do not see the system link running form the DVDs or HDD.

I know the eathernet ports work on my xecuters ,xblast,TSOP  and function correctly ,as I FTP with them regularly through a switch.

Each one is set to DHCP.  System link works fine with these In all other titles.

I only thought of this because XBMC 3.5.6 has the ability to change the workgroup.

Can anyone with multiple modified boxes verify this issue ? 

Can it be a BIOS issue with XboxLive functions disabled ?

I use IND and X3 setups I have not tried M8.

 

I'll check and let you know. 

[Network Hub Vs Switch]

On 8/16/2020 at 2:47 PM, xicat487 said:

As an update I took 2 stock v1.6 linked with a switch no issue.

On the same system link with a v1.6 Rocky5 softmod it does not see a game session.

All of my TSOP/Executer/Xblast systems refuse to see a game session. 

DHCP is set to auto on all but when looking at the Rocky5 box  on the launch menu, the network ip address was 0.0.0.0 when connected to the switch.

No outside internet connections hooked into this setup.

Is it possible that the network domain of a stock unit is different vs a modded xbox and some how this matters for this title ?

I'm just tossing ideas out at the moment.

It sounds like you just proved the nic is dead in that rocky5 box. 
If it didn't get DHCP and it doesn't see system link... it isn't communicating on your network. Problem solved. 

[A Fresh Idea On the Clock Cap?]

2 hours ago, sh0rtlife said:

siting here running updates, with dave as my co-pilot, ive been thinking about permanent solutions, not just long term but something we can do once and never muck with it again, and yes im fully aware we can network out and get time untill something changes a site goes dead or we live with a wrong clock.....

so the obvious one to me would be to run a set of wires off the clock cap pins out the back of the box and do an external battery backup mounted between the AV and the cat5, but..lets face it, how longs it going to last?, how long would it take to charge?..theres ALOT of variables and too much chance for a dead clock that needs reset

me personaly i keep ALL of my vintage consoles on a switch box so that their bricks and power boards dont EVER see voltage unless they are in use, to preserve caps, boards and bricks, and heaven forbid..a power surge of some kind that manages to get past my ups, i figure setup like that my consoles should out live me..i hope, for the guys that dont unplug or kill power, you just replace the cap, or go with a small battery

but its got me thinking about not only the xbox but any other unit with a clock cap that could be without power for weeks...months....lets face it we never know what life throws at us

 

so what do we know, ..its a 2.5v cap...but what amps?..if we were to run 2 wires and add a port to the back of the box we should be able to add some manner of small wall wort brick and step down the amps/volts, heck you could use the same wall wort to keep clock voltage on multiple consoles depending on how they are displayed...im not just thinking the X  but any/all systems

anyway its an idea im tossing out there however dumb it may sound at the moment

 

If you want something you can do once and never muck with it again... just remove it and clean up the electrolyte it left behind. 
That's it. You don't need it or a battery. 

[Network Hub Vs Switch]

2 hours ago, xicat487 said:

I ran the game from the same disc, this corrected Mechassault, not for Brute Force. I have not updated the games yet with the DLC that's something for tonight.

One isn't on a debug kit or anything is it?

[Network Hub Vs Switch]

28 minutes ago, xicat487 said:

After contacting a friend that I often had LAN events with he recalled the issue with Brute Force and had mixed luck with a switch.

This network has 4, with plans for 8, boxes have no outside connections.

My next thought is the DLC updater maybe it updates the network too. My HUB is in route ETA Friday.

Can anyone confirm my issue ? If not what switch is working properly ?

system link ALWAYS checks versioning of the game. You should either bring both up to the same patch level / maps or take them both down to default from the disc. 

[Network Hub Vs Switch]

7 hours ago, Danish_Elite said:

It would be interesting to try a wireshark capture of the lan communication between the devices and maybe just try setting static IPs between the xboxes to help narrow down the root. Do you have these xboxes on your network or are they just isolated to the little unmanaged switch?

System Link doesn't care what ip addresses you set. It simply doesn't use that network config. It uses its own network config and IP is layer 3... system link doesn't depend on layer 3. You can build a layer 3 tunnel between routers and firewalls and xbox's on either side will not see each other. System Link operates at layer 2. 

[XBox Smells Like Fish]

On 8/9/2020 at 4:44 PM, UnD3RtAk8R said:

I have 2 og xbox 1.6 version. A little while ago I tried mod them and a bad Chinese adaptor for the hdd upgrade got them malfunction. So I ordered some good Panasonic capacitors and the startech adapters. Now that I think of it after the circuit malfunction I got them dedusted and rubbed them with isopropyl and a toothbrush. A fishy smell came out while I did the cleaning which means I have an electronic problem. On the boards I have one busted capacitor and no leak traces. One is hardmoded one is softmoded. How do I check exactly the problem before I try again to upgrade my hdd's? The problem I get from both xbox is the same. Whenever I plugged the hdd molex the xbox would power down instantly. If however I left the molex unplugged they would power up properly with the 07 error though. So any thoughts? I have a way to check the capacitors but I don't know how. The resistance and the power they must emit. 

Your xbox may have just got a girlfriend. Give it some congrats and possibly a talk and a little protection and be proud. 

[Network Hub Vs Switch]

10 minutes ago, xicat487 said:

No not really I just want this for Xbox system link and the occasional FTP.  

Then you don't need a managed switch. 

[Network Hub Vs Switch]

5 minutes ago, xicat487 said:

If I get another switch, should I get a managed switch ?

Do you plan on doing any vlanning, QoS, or any kind of monitoring and management of the traffic on your lan?

[Network Hub Vs Switch]

1 minute ago, xicat487 said:

I will try different pair of Xboxes and see if I can reproduce the issue in these titles and report. 

I think you should try a different switch. 

[Network Hub Vs Switch]

11 minutes ago, xicat487 said:

Any Idea why Halo and Conquer work fine on a switch, but these games have an issue ? Is it a possibility I have a DHCP conflict with the older titles ?

What is interesting is system link doesn't give a damn about dhcp. It doesn't even really operate at layer 3. it operates at layer 2. 

 

[Network Hub Vs Switch]

3 minutes ago, xicat487 said:

I was running some Halo system link no issue. When I switched over to Brute Force and Mechassault the link failed to see another Xbox.I am using a unmanaged switch. 

I used one of these back i the day https://www.ebay.com/itm/Radica-Gamester-RC73220-LAN-Party-4-port-hub-and-Gamester-power-supply/164263467360?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649. The question is do some of the old games need a hub not a switch for connection ?

No. The only difference between a hub and a switch is that a hub broadcasts all frames to every port. 
A switch only sends frames to the interface that the destination mac address is located on. 

Thus hubs have collisions once you get more than 2 devices connected to one. Switches do not. 

For system link networking, it works perfectly fine on a switch that is fully functional. 

[Fluctuation of Capacitors]

19 hours ago, sweetdarkdestiny said:

Hi guys.

Today i got the new capacitors for both of my v1.4 xboxes and measured them (because i'm nosy). The most of them are pretty close to the µF which are stated. The 1500 µF 6,3v (~1700 µF) what is fine, the 3300 µF 10v naild it but the 3300 µF 6,3v are going strait through the roof with ~4100 µF and i wonder if thats not a bit to much?

Nope. It's not too much. It needs to be WAY too much to have any consequence. Momentary surges need to be HUGE to burn traces or burn out the psu. These tiny caps aren't going to do it in the quantity they are in. You're totally fine. 

[Anybody Here Use a Kernel Debugger With Their Debug Kits?]

1 hour ago, DobaMuffin said:

Are you using official Microsoft hardware, or a diy solution for debugging?

Official

[Anybody Here Use a Kernel Debugger With Their Debug Kits?]

I'm doing it as we speak. I was googling certain information and came across your post on the forum I created. lol weird. Back to searching for meaning....

[Not Really a 'new' Member.]

Welcome! Very nice. 

[Crystal XBox V 1.5]

5 hours ago, ark125 said:

I thought it will short the circuit.

Anyway, there are 1.5 crystals out there.

I have been modding my xbox this week. And, I spent a lot of time trying to guess why wasnt working the chip. Then I saw a post in reddit explaining hoy to measure the pins and linking the pin 2 and pin 9 works.

I hope this will be helpful for someone.

Just because you're not reading the continuity you expect doesn't mean it's a 1.5. 1.5 never existed, although open circuits in all electronics DO exist due to manufacturing defects and age. You just did trace repair on a faulty board. You didn't find a mythical xbox version that never existed. 

[I Bought an Unused Alpha Tower II Devkit Case]

1 hour ago, anode said:

Album: https://imgur.com/a/ptzp4Vl

 

Saw this pop up for sale locally and made the trip to pick it up. He said his father-in-law was an IT contractor, and apparently he originally got the case empty.

I got back home and opened it up to find the original case hardware kit sealed in its cardboard box, taped inside the drive bay next to a power cable in a bag. A silica gel pack was taped to the floor of the case. The IO connectors were zip tied together, tucked away in a corner. I am extra certain this case was never used, because the metal plate covering the DVD drive bay was not punched out.

My assumption is that Microsoft ordered cases from a supplier (says Yeou Chih on the inside) and hand-assembled all 50 units themselves in Redmond. I'm guessing that this case was one that either arrived damaged, or just never got used. If there were rumored to be 50 units, then I suppose this is unit 51. The date code on the back is 4-18-01.

I'm not entirely sure what to do with it. The inside is perfect, but the outside is a bit rough from kicking around in a basement. Ideally, I'd like to purchase the parts to remake the Alpha tower like N64 Freak did, but considering how difficult it is to find the Intel motherboard at a reasonable price I'm not sure how likely that is to happen. Maybe another 820 chipset board would work instead? I'm seeing a few similar candidates that are half the price of the Intel board. Another option I'm considering is building a similarly-specced PC inside and installing Windows 2000 for some Halo action.

All I've done so far is clean it up. Thoughts?

I don't have many suggestions, but I have been looking for one for my preservation. If you don't move forward with it, please consider letting me purchase it. 

[Quake 3: Arena (Beta)]

Also, I have a game server up you can play on if you want. It is "OGXBOX.com - Get Rekt Nerds". 

[Found Old Avalaunch Team Files Online]

If you can figure out how to enter that avalaunch subdirectory that we don't have permission to, we might have something. 

[Nice To Be Here ;-)]

6 hours ago, ralphup said:

Hi Just joined, just got my Orig XBOX out of storage, looking to do a 2Tb SATA update, It has a 128Gb PATA drive, a Modded Samsung DVD so reads all discs, an Xecuter X3 Chip and Executer Front Panel with LCD Display and Infrared to remote power on/off the box!

 

Its a v1.5 Just recapped the 3 CPU caps and tried to replace the Clock super Cap, all working nicely but the clock still defaults when I power off...

There wasn't actually a 1.5. So do you mean it's a 1.4 or a 1.6?

[Retrobrite Panzer Dragoon Console]

It WILL screw up the detail on the top. People have already attempted it on these and then had to attempt to repaint it. 
You'll have to come up with a brilliant way to mask the paint before applying the retrobrite. 

[Xbox Gpu Repaste Is Pointless]

1 minute ago, prtscn said:

bummer, at least people could do comparisons of cpu.

well, at least xbox 360 is correct.

I think now is a good time to restate all premises because the conclusions will undoubtedly be drawn with video evidence soon. 

#1 Replacing the stock paste with better paste will yield no significant results IF the stock paste hasn't already failed. It's very brittle and can crack and fail fairly easily. Thus the reasoning behind changing it out. 

#2 The differences between thermal pastes are minute. The thermal conductivity of these pastes can be known by their w/Mk rating that should be listed somewhere for a given TIM. Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut has the highest w/Mk of all TIMs known to me. It is what I will be testing with and I do expect a very slight improvement. 

#3 Liquid metal would result in a huge improvement in theory but cannot be used because the heatsinks are aluminum and gallium creates an alloy with aluminum that destroys its rigidity and thus renders the heatsink useless.