[XBox Power Supply Question]

On 3/17/2024 at 7:23 PM, MadMartigan said:

@DARK A you left us hanging on the conversion information. Any chance you can provide a guide or help walk us through the process so we can make a user guide for others? This can help so many users. 

sorry for the late replay

the only version  i try it on was v1 and i only followed ss_dave info  all i did was removing the jumper wire infront of the left capacitor and the yellow transister right to right cap and it worked

btw im not electraion so responsible for any damge that it may cause i only followed dave info

here is the picture of the same psu v1 for both pal and ntsc and what to remove but be careful

https://imgur.com/a/g5nWjqw

[xbox360 hdd port problem or ?]

On 1/24/2024 at 8:07 PM, Bowlsnapper said:

Are you SURE this HDD is still good?

 

On 1/25/2024 at 2:59 AM, Marty said:

Lets see some pics of your wiring.

 

18 hours ago, nikeymikey said:

That's some flamethrower soldering on that cool runner.  

I would redo all those joints with leaded solder and PLENTY of flux. This will give you much cleaner connections there. 

Also the connections on the motherboard itself, are they soldered or just held in place with that tape? 

I would try and get a correct power supply for your model just to be certain that isn't causing an issue. 

 

7 hours ago, Fringle said:

All 360's use SATA for the DVD and hdd.  It's not just limited to slims, with the Phat console it's just a custom eSATA connector for the hdd.  Take a good quality picture of the HDD connector and pin header solder.  Could be a bridge or missing component from the board.

sorry everyone for the inconvenience but let me explain what  happened  

i  didn't look inside the port with a camera because i already cleaned it with 99% alchool and a toothbrush two times  so i thought there was no need to look at it

but thanks to allah then fringle for his replay i took a picture inside the port and look what  i found a piece of plastic how did it get here and where did it come from ?

my guess is its from the one who owned it before maybe it was on top and after multiple connecting and disconnecting it fall

after  i removed it the hdd working no problem thank allah

so thank you everyone so much and sorry for the inconvenience

im gonna just disconnect the dvd and use the console without it

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10 minutes ago, nikeymikey said:

Might be a silly question.... But why don't you just leave the DVD drive out of the system if it works and you can play games on Aurora without it?

I haven't used the DVD in my 360 in years. 

i was going to do that  and i put thermal pads on the memory and  got a new psu  and  i was ready  to  put it back toghter untill i found out the  hdd  is  not working

the weird thing is  i have another retail flacon i did test the psu with had no problem everything is working

i was thinking maybe the pad the heatsinks  caused some short to something im not electrician so i dont know to figure it out  .

btw thanks for the replay

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6 minutes ago, nikeymikey said:

That's some flamethrower soldering on that cool runner.  

I would redo all those joints with leaded solder and PLENTY of flux. This will give you much cleaner connections there. 

Also the connections on the motherboard itself, are they soldered or just held in place with that tape? 

I would try and get a correct power supply for your model just to be certain that isn't causing an issue. 

lol

no they are soldered  i can  glitch the console without dvd and play games from arura no  problem,

before the hdd problem started  now i can  launch  aurora from external  hdd no problem only if there is no dvd

so you think it could be my coolrunner soldering is the problem ?

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20 hours ago, nikeymikey said:

If it IS fried then not a lot other than to find the blown components and replace them one by one. 

how to do that ? and btw i have zero knowledge in electricity

 

14 hours ago, Marty said:

Lets see some pics of your wiring.

here you go

https://imgur.com/b1ERupR

https://imgur.com/b1ERupR

https://imgur.com/gXlP1lH

https://imgur.com/fEtExEX

https://imgur.com/lsKKmgw

https://imgur.com/BnqvA0E

https://imgur.com/Ahw2jyu

https://imgur.com/PVokFRS

https://imgur.com/6NGOyed

https://imgur.com/lNwzf6W

https://imgur.com/29fvzkz

10 hours ago, Fringle said:

Sounds like your wiring isn't all that good.  The console should glitch with the dvd drive connected.  Only reason it wouldn't is due to it drawing extra power or something along those lines which leads back to your wiring.  Shorten your wires and try different resistor values.  As for the HDD not working, it sounds like you borked the port.  Try blowing it out with compressed air or looking for any shorts on the pins.  Could possibly be also related to it not booting with the dvd drive attached since they both connect to the SATA bus.  Go over the entire board with a fine tooth comb and make sure there are no solder bridges/shorts.  Post high res pictures so someone else can take a look and possibly pick up something you don't see.

im using rgh 1.2 so no resister im using cool runner

how to look for shorts on the pins and which pin is that

its been booting before  i added thermal pads and  heatsinks to memory and before using the new psu

only the dvd will not make the console boot it make cool runner  blinking green forever

btw its fat not slim so i dont think its sata bus

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2 hours ago, Marty said:

Why would the DVD drive make the console glitch? Can you boot into Xell by starting the machine with the EJECT button?

i didnt mean it make it glitch i mean it doesnt  make it  glitch and no it doesnt boot to xell if its  connected i have to unplug it

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3 hours ago, nikeymikey said:

If it IS fried then not a lot other than to find the blown components and replace them one by one. 

can i use external drive as the main drive for the console via usb ?

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48 minutes ago, nikeymikey said:

Not really, You would be better off in a 360 specific site. 

However.... I do know that power supplies do DIFFER between different revisions of 360. Not only do the plugs differ slightly but the wattage differs too so there is a possibility you have fried your console. 

it has more wattage but its the same as old one 12v ,

if i did really fried it what can i do ?

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47 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said:

Are you SURE this HDD is still good?

yes i try different hdd same thing it doesn't show  up in  storage

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40 minutes ago, lopenator said:

This an OG Xbox forum.

yeah i know but most  people here know a lot about 360

[xbox360 hdd port problem or ?]

hello everyone

i finished rgh 1.2 my  falcon 360

everything is working except the dvd drive it dosnt seem to make the console glitch it just  stuck in loop so i removed anyway 

i  was thinking of cooling the memory so i added a thermal pad and heat  sinks  to these , (ps not my picture )

and after that it doesn't recognize any hdd  connected i try the hdd in another console its fully working

i removed the pads same problem

what can be the problem

ps i got a new psu since someone told me that maybe my old psu is faulty (after i added the pads i didnt try the console with old psu so i dont know is it the new psu that  killed the port or is it pads or somthing else ?)  and its  much higher watt 203watt i try it in a diffrent console before trying it on this console and didnt have problems

[XBox Power Supply Question]

On 1/13/2024 at 8:11 PM, MadMartigan said:

Can you share what all you did? I’m desperately looking everywhere on info the convert the other way around (220-110). All I’m getting is dead ends. 

which version do  you  have ?

[rgh 1.2 fat falcon xbox 360 but ?]

On 1/3/2024 at 5:06 AM, DARK A said:

i try directly into  the wall

now its yellow or green im not sure , anyway the cool runner now blink  3 times then  stop for 2 secend on repeat  i left  it for 5 minutes  same thing no booting or display

anyone can help ?

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1 hour ago, Marty said:

Sounds like adding the extra device (DVD) is putting too much strain on a failing power brick.

If you're plugging the power brick into a power bar or surge suppressor, try plugging it straight into the wall outlet.

i try directly into  the wall

now its yellow or green im not sure , anyway the cool runner now blink  3 times then  stop for 2 secend on repeat  i left  it for 5 minutes  same thing no booting or display

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30 minutes ago, Marty said:

Sounds like adding the extra device (DVD) is putting too much strain on a failing power brick.

If you're plugging the power brick into a power bar or surge suppressor, try plugging it straight into the wall outlet.

thanks for the info

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29 minutes ago, Marty said:

Do you have another power brick to test with?

Are you getting any error lights on the power brick?

Stock hard drive, or do you have another hard drive to test with?

sadly no 

yes  red sometimes

yes

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23 minutes ago, Donnie-Burger said:

Yeah sorry forgot not rgh3.  So no boot with dvd is still interference - Gotta try routing cables away from some components that cause this.  Post and CPU are sensitive.

i already got them away from each other when i was managing the wires

just to make sure is post and cpu on cool runner a and d ?

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19 hours ago, Donnie-Burger said:

This is normal on some rgh 1.2 installs.  Its interference with the pulse waves during glitch cycles.  Can you show some pictures of your wire routing?  Are you using a resistor on PLL?  If you are what value?  Are you using Diode on post?  If so the right one?  Also, what chip and timing file are you using.  Some will behave oddly.  I like to test with dvd re-attached and top case installed.  These 2 will change your glitch values sometimes. 

I only RGH 1.2 phats now since rgh3 can be picky on some phats.

Slims I RGH3 all day and noticed that some trinities will short resistor and you will get black screen at boot until you replace or remove resistor.  Coronas have never done this to me so I've opted to not use resistors on Trinity mobos anymore.

 

Use this J-Runner from Octal450: https://github.com/Octal450/J-Runner-with-Extras/releases/tag/V3.3.0-r2

 

Hope this helped.

im not near it to  take picture .

its rgh 1.2  so no resister or diode

im using mario tutorial

im already using jrunner with extra

i did a better wires  managment and it boot now no  problem if i did not connect the dvd it work with hdd no problem

the problem now only  with the dvd what can be the cause ?

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i figured it out what the problem was it was cpu rst the alternive one showed in mario video it wasnt working for me i did the one under the xclamp now everything was working untill i connected the dvd now sometimes it boot sometimes it dont and show red light

i think my cable management is  very bad or is it something to do with the dvd ?

and  if its  the cable management can someone  show me a  better management for all the wires ?

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57 minutes ago, DARK A said:

i try  diffrent  console

i got read nand no problem and i creat and write xell no problem

i try booting the console with eject to get the key  it turn on by flashing the middle light only and there is no display neither hd or av

im i doing somthing wrong ?

btw the console is japanese falcon

read this

29 minutes ago, Donnie-Burger said:

Use flux.  many brands out there - Kingbo, Amtech etc

This one is legit: (Super cheap, big container and lasts a long time)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/143408532066

 

thanks but i did a better job on the next console

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47 minutes ago, lopenator said:

that soldering looks horrible dude. 

I don't mean to be mean but I'm honest.

yeah i  know haha i did a better job on  a diffrent console

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i try  diffrent  console

i got read nand no problem and i creat and write xell no problem

i try booting the console with eject to get the key  it turn on by flashing the middle light only and there is no display neither hd or av

im i doing somthing wrong ?

btw the console is japanese falcon

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12 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said:

Are you afraid of losing your original flash? Is that what your concern is? ... I wouldn't be  As long as your flash is good, of course.

What was your output, anyway? Was anything actually succesfully written with jrunner? Are you able to boot right now? If all you had was unsuccessful writes and you can still boot, just run again using the tutorial and jrunner will do everything for you, step by step!

https://xbox360hub.com/guides/rgh-3-guide/

its not the flash its the nand i think its corrupted.

my output is  i try both  hd and av nothing shows up.

yes after using  picoflasher every time i read and write  i got successful with no errors.

no i only get middle light blinking and some times 2 red light up right and down left 

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On 12/26/2023 at 2:12 AM, Bowlsnapper said:

Not trying to give you a hard time at all. The wires that come with the programmer are honestly bigger than you wanna be dealing with, if you can help it. I used a pi pico and used 30AWG wire. It gives you much more room to work with and isn't individually stranded.

Check the zoomed full photo. You'll see what I mean.

 

i figured it
it wasnt my soldering it was jr programmer it wasnt working that good
i switch to picoflasher and its fully working .
so how to retun to stock or working nand now ?
because i lost my original nand ,  my console is falcon

or is the console done for ?

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1 hour ago, Bowlsnapper said:

J runner should do all of this automatically since it's pretty thorough. that soldering needs to be done better so you know it won't be a problem for you. I would use kynar wire for those points. The wire you're using is friggin HUGE.  You're making sure to use plenty of flux, right?

im using the wires that came with jr programmer