SakisTheDrifter Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 Is there a way to Force a BFM BIOS to set the clock speed of CPU,GPU,RAM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xicat487 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 Check this post out Neighbor was under clocking with NV Overclock. I played around with it on a lot BIOS versions and had no issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakisTheDrifter Posted November 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, xicat487 said: Check this post out Neighbor was under clocking with NV Overclock. I played around with it on a lot BIOS versions and had no issue. This is not about my problem. My problem is that i already overclocked my xbox and with the overclock,there is a lot of lag over online play(since others have stock xboxes). So i want a way to get back at stock speeds whenever i want without reflashing the bios. Thats why i want a BFM solution,so that whenever i want stock speeds,i will load the stock BFM bios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xicat487 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 I'm going to honest what does BFM BIOS do vs the more widely used ones ? I have a set of them but never used any. Any reason why not to have a dual BIOS setup on a mod chip of your choice ready just for this situation ? Am I missing something ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulkchart32 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 14 hours ago, xicat487 said: I'm going to honest what does BFM BIOS do vs the more widely used ones ? I have a set of them but never used any. Any reason why not to have a dual BIOS setup on a mod chip of your choice ready just for this situation ? Am I missing something ? what's a bfm bios? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulkchart32 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 20 hours ago, SakisTheDrifter said: This is not about my problem. My problem is that i already overclocked my xbox and with the overclock,there is a lot of lag over online play(since others have stock xboxes). So i want a way to get back at stock speeds whenever i want without reflashing the bios. Thats why i want a BFM solution,so that whenever i want stock speeds,i will load the stock BFM bios how did u oc? with a bios? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakisTheDrifter Posted November 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, xicat487 said: I'm going to honest what does BFM BIOS do vs the more widely used ones ? I have a set of them but never used any. Any reason why not to have a dual BIOS setup on a mod chip of your choice ready just for this situation ? Am I missing something ? I cant have dual bios,since i use a TSOP and not a modchip Edited November 11, 2020 by SakisTheDrifter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakisTheDrifter Posted November 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 48 minutes ago, bulkchart32 said: how did u oc? with a bios? Yea with xboverclock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xicat487 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 In short no. Without a mod chip the TSOP EEPROP will have to be flashed to return to stock speeds every time. Of the chips I have used in order of my preference XblastLite Xxecuter 3 and then Open Xenium. Long and shot power switch press or direct stored BIOS selection on startup makes this very easy. If you can TSOP, a mod chips in my opinion is actually easier to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xicat487 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 In the attached post above Neighbor explains a down clock he also has a overclock post. I attached some failures when attempting to use the program the first time. Note you may break compatibility as this post shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenox Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 hours ago, SakisTheDrifter said: I cant have dual bios,since i use a TSOP and not a modchip Time to get one of these modchip with multiple banks Also, can you upload the bios file so i can test on my xbox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakisTheDrifter Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 I dont like modchips so i am gonna keep using the TSOP. The solution i found for myself is overclock only the gpu and leave cpu and ram stock. I did it and the games play at normal speed and no lag online. I hope someone will find a way for a BFM bios to actual set the clocks too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_Dave Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 If you have a version 1.0-1.1 you can split the TSOP with a singe switch to have 2 BIOS's or a simple Aladdin chip, You have one BIOS on the TSOP and a different BIOS on the chip, If you power on with the eject button is loads the TSOP and power button loads the chip BIOS file. Cheers SS Dave Soft modding is like masturbating, It gets the job done but it's nothing like the real thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosEngineer Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 You can't use a BFM BIOS to reconfigure the base hardware setup of the CPU, GPU and RAM. A BFM BIOS does not have the startup code that allows for overclocking. You have to boot a different non-BFM BIOS to go between different hardware startup configurations - overclocked or not overclocked. Thus, you need a modchip that supports booting multiple BIOSes - OpenXenium is one; there are others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulkchart32 Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 11/11/2020 at 12:22 PM, SakisTheDrifter said: Yea with xboverclock does the over clock really help games run better offline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakisTheDrifter Posted November 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 20 hours ago, bulkchart32 said: does the over clock really help games run better offline? It really helps Halo 1,but makes project gotham racing 2 run a little faster,so it depends on the game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakisTheDrifter Posted November 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 4:09 AM, SS_Dave said: If you have a version 1.0-1.1 you can split the TSOP with a singe switch to have 2 BIOS's or a simple Aladdin chip, You have one BIOS on the TSOP and a different BIOS on the chip, If you power on with the eject button is loads the TSOP and power button loads the chip BIOS file. Cheers SS Dave Soft modding is like masturbating, It gets the job done but it's nothing like the real thing. Thats what i wanted to do before even posting here for help,but the problems are that i have 3 xboxes so i dont wanna buy a chip for every console and also all of them have single bank tsops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakisTheDrifter Posted November 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 9:32 AM, KaosEngineer said: You can't use a BFM BIOS to reconfigure the base hardware setup of the CPU, GPU and RAM. A BFM BIOS does not have the startup code that allows for overclocking. You have to boot a different non-BFM BIOS to go between different hardware startup configurations - overclocked or not overclocked. Thats what i see.... i really hope that someone someday will make BFM bioses do that too,it would be really helpfull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightBreeze Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, SakisTheDrifter said: Thats what i wanted to do before even posting here for help,but the problems are that i have 3 xboxes so i dont wanna buy a chip for every console and also all of them have single bank tsops OpenXeniums are pretty cheap to either build yourself or buy from someone, you should find them for ~$20. Or for about the same price you could build 5 yourself. 3 hours ago, SakisTheDrifter said: Thats what i see.... i really hope that someone someday will make BFM bioses do that too,it would be really helpfull It won't happen because it needs to be done via Xcodes meaning it happens before BFM bios/kernel initialization. You can read some more about the Xbox boot process here https://mborgerson.com/deconstructing-the-xbox-boot-rom/ Edited November 13, 2020 by NightBreeze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosEngineer Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 15 hours ago, SakisTheDrifter said: Thats what i see.... i really hope that someone someday will make BFM bioses do that too,it would be really helpfull You don't overclock a PC on the fly either. You go into the BIOS change the settings and reboot the PC, run it through stress testing to make sure it doesn't crash. If so, you boot back into the BIOS which uses standard operating settings (the Xbox's BIOS doesn't have a configuration page to do these overclocking changes) then make overclocking settings changes that are less stressful. Repeat until it doesn't crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakisTheDrifter Posted November 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 16 hours ago, KaosEngineer said: You don't overclock a PC on the fly either. You go into the BIOS change the settings and reboot the PC, run it through stress testing to make sure it doesn't crash. If so, you boot back into the BIOS which uses standard operating settings (the Xbox's BIOS doesn't have a configuration page to do these overclocking changes) then make overclocking settings changes that are less stressful. Repeat until it doesn't crash. There are cpu that do it automatically on the fly. Also you can overclock a gpu on the fly without reboot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosEngineer Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 16 hours ago, SakisTheDrifter said: There are cpu that do it automatically on the fly. Also you can overclock a gpu on the fly without reboot No one has written such an app to overclock the Xbox's CPU or GPU on the fly. Permanent changes are made to the modified Xbox BIOS to configure the hardware during startup before the kernel is extracted/decrypted from ROM then loaded into RAM and executed - hardware is configured by the 2BL (second boot loader) code, not the kernel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakisTheDrifter Posted November 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 6 hours ago, KaosEngineer said: No one has written such an app to overclock the Xbox's CPU or GPU on the fly. Permanent changes are made to the modified Xbox BIOS to configure the hardware during startup before the kernel is extracted/decrypted from ROM then loaded into RAM and executed - hardware is configured by the 2BL (second boot loader) code, not the kernel. I got it,so i overclocked the gpu only and the game run at normal speed,so i guess i am gonna leave it like that. Thanks everyone for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulkchart32 Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 hours ago, SakisTheDrifter said: I got it,so i overclocked the gpu only and the game run at normal speed,so i guess i am gonna leave it like that. Thanks everyone for the help how did u overclock things? i'm interested in trying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosEngineer Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 54 minutes ago, bulkchart32 said: how did u overclock things? i'm interested in trying it. Take a look at this github repository: https://github.com/WulfyStylez/XBOverclock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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