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Dear Friends,

I try to find a solderless adapter for my 8164B DVD drive to use it in my Xbox, but there is no any chance to get the "Talismoon 8164 Solderless Adapter" anywhere on the internet. (as you see it on the pic).

I'd like to ask you, is there anyone, who has a complete schematics/PCB and a BIN file for "Atmel_Tiny12l" microprocessor? I think I try to build one for myself.

Thank you for your help!

BR: SiD

 

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There's information on modding an LG GDR-8164b here: Please login or register to see this link.

Read through all the pages as there were slight modifications and better schematics provided in later pages.  I've only went through the first three of six pages.

You don't need an Atmel Tiny12L chip just some 24-30AWG insulated wire (Kynar insulated wire-wrap wire will work) , 1N4148 switching diodes, 1K Ohm resistors and a BC547 NPN transistor wired to the correct pads on the DVD drives controller board and the 12 pin header to mate with the Xbox's power/signal cable connector.  Plus, flashing the firmware so it can read original Xbox game discs - found at the usual place. :)

P.S. There is a board layout for the PCB you've shown or at least one very close to it.  I've not found the code to program the Atmel chip :( but with larry's mod you don't need it.

 

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13 minutes ago, KaosEngineer said:

There's information on modding an LG GDR-8164b here: Please login or register to see this link.

Read through all the pages as there were slight modifications and better schematics provided in later pages.  I've only went through the first three of six pages.

You don't need an Atmel Tiny12L chip just some 24-30AWG insulated wire (Kynar insulated wire-wrap wire will work) , 1N4148 switching diodes, 1K Ohm resistors and a BC547 NPN transistor wired to the correct pads on the DVD drives controller board and the 12 pin header to mate with the Xbox's power/signal cable connector.  Plus, flashing the firmware so it can read original Xbox game discs - found at the usual place. :)

Great, Kynar is not problem, I have many :) And the firmware, I think I have it too. Just the soldering schematic what I do not have. Can you give me some more instruction? Pics? Anything? :D

Off: Are you the oldest elder one here? :) Congratulate to your knowledge :) Amazing.

 

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The schematic diagram is on page 3 of the posted forum.

I've also attached it below:

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After a bit of deductive reasoning, the "hier das schaltbild Please login or register to see this link. " translated to English "the picture - Please login or register to see this link. " by Warlock-XBOX
on page 5 of the forum to an image seems like it should show the one above but errs on the Wayback Machine to see it. (The current web site doesn't work either. It results in displaying a page not found error.)

Some other images from the previously posted forum:

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Found a copy of the firmware here: Please login or register to see this link.

The Wayback Machine didn't seem to have a copy of it from the original source: 

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There should be a copy of the firmware on xbins FTP server.

Attached here as well just in case other sites lose it:

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Thank you friend.

You are a guest for a beer or hundred :)

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##NOT TESTED##

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10 minutes ago, bluemeanie23 said:

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##NOT TESTED##

THANX Friend!

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1 hour ago, bluemeanie23 said:

great tut without adapter

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Thank you, 8163B is not problem, cause I have a great tutorial from Menelik who was the first in this topic (Please login or register to see this link.  sorry it is in Hungarian language, cause I'm Hungarian and me and my friend translate it long time ago, I do not find the offical English version now). The hugest problem was the 8174B :)

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All the info posted thus far has been about a SOLDERing required adapter not the TalisMoon solderless adapter. :(

I did find a post by @N64 freak some 4 1/2 years ago at Please login or register to see this link. that just happened to have tutorials and other info to mod the Samsung SD-616T, LG GDR-8163B and GDR-8164B DVD drives for the ogXbox. Looks like the source code for the the xbox8164adapter is included. I've not completely deciphered the source code to verify if the pin 1 to LDOUT mod is supported.  I'm not sure if this assembler source code is for the now defunct www.xbox8164adapter.com's microcontroller but here it is [comments translated from German to English using translate.google.com]:

Note: The [ code ] ... [ /code ] tags seem to mess up the starting location of some of the lines, added additional spaces in front of them for some unknown reason,  and I can't edit inside the code section to remove them. I think all lines should start in the first column but maybe not.

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The assembled code in Please login or register to see this attachment. to program the microcontroller. Is it to be a ATTiny11L, 12L or 13L?  

Plus a couple of pics already seen but attached here for completeness.

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Update: The source code above is not for the diagram above.  The code includes reading the LDVD status which this diagram does not use.

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And, the LG GDR-8164B adapter firmware flasher (previously posted in this forum thread from a different source):

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Looks like this is different than the 8050L firmware used to reflash the LG GDR-8163B DVD drive.

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Oh, I found an installation manual for the xbox8164adapter too.

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Attached below as well:

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5 hours ago, KaosEngineer said:

Oh, I found an installation manual for the xbox8164adapter too.

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Attached below as well:

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You are a hero :)

Thank Mate, nice job!

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I still don't think it's quite right.  

DIP8 pin numbers

1       8
2       7
3       6
4       5

Why's 8 next to pin 5 and LDIN doesn't connect to pin 8.  Am I seeing it wrong?  Can you make pin 1 of the DIP8 package a square pad.  I see the silkscreen dot so assuming the pinout I've shown above for the PCB.  Pin 8 is 3.3Vdc power supply for the ATTIny11L, not LDIN. LDIN is either pin 2 or 3 can't see it from the RED pcb picture posted above but it's on the black and white PCB pics above connected to pin 2.

Also, silkscreen labels on top in ALL UPPERCASE or lowercase for the GDR-8164B PCB signal names.

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Here's another schematic of the adapter.  Still uses a ATTiny13 but has one of the signal line names relabeled.  LDVD to pin 2 instead of LDIN.

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Pin 3 of the ATTiny13 is now labeled LDVD instead of LDIN.

Source Code Check of All ATTiny13 Input and Output Signal Pins

Pin 1 - output - PB5 (0x20) of the ATTiny13, LDOUT, matches the source code:

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Pin 2 - input - PB3 (0x08) of the ATTiny13, LDCD, matches the source code:

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Pin 3 - input - PB4 (0x10) of the ATTiny13, LDVD, matches the source code:

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Pin 4 = GND

Pin 5 - output - PB0 (0x01) of the ATTiny13, READY, matches the source code:

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Pin 6 - output - PB1 (0x02) of the ATTiny13, TRAYOUT, matches the source code:

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Pin 7 - input - PB2 (0x04) of the ATTiny13, LDIN, matches the source code:

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Pin 8 - Vcc - 3.3Vdc source from GDR-8164B controller PCB pad.

The GDR-8164B receives power from the Xbox's 12-pin DVD Power and Signal cable:

  • 5Vdc
  • 12Vdc, and
  • Ground.

With this adapter, the Molex power connector on the DVD drive is not used.

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That I don't know, the 8164 adapter from xbxo8164adapter.com ages ago used an ATTiny11L instead of a 13.   I'm not sure why there are many diagrams showing an ATTiny13 instead of the 11L.  The 11L runs off of 2.7-5.5Vdc (3.3Vdc in the diagrams) while the standard ATTiny11 from 4.0-5.5Vdc.

I'll need to download the ATTiny13's datasheet(s) that show all the different versions and see what I can determine from them.

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1 minute ago, KaosEngineer said:

That I don't know, the 8164 adapter from xbxo8164adapter.com ages ago used an ATTiny11L instead of a 13.   I'm not sure why there are many diagrams showing an ATTiny13 instead of the 11L.  The 11L runs off of 2.7-5.5Vdc (3.3Vdc in the diagrams) while the standard ATTiny11 from 4.0-5.5Vdc.

I'll need to download the ATTiny13's datasheet(s) that show all the different versions and see what I can determine from them.

I see. okay, thanks for you time and work :)

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