[XBox Cpu Id]

10 hours ago, Bowlsnapper said:

I have like, 10 interposers waiting to be used. However, I am almost positive I will fail and I would like to get more practice with BGA work before I attempt it. I was thinking that I could practice with some RROD 360s first... or I could try to use an SL4BS 1GHz CPU and just paste it to the board. It would be SOMETHING.

RROD 360 or dead xbox og motherboards are ideal for this.  Get your temps/timings/profiles down for sure before attempting.

[XBox Cpu Id]

On 2/3/2024 at 10:55 AM, Bowlsnapper said:

Does anybody know if a T862 is sufficient to pull this off? I really don't want to invest a bunch of money in a huge BGA machine. @Donnie-Burger

Not sure I have a T8280 and you can lift and re-attach xbox og cpus.  I'm saving for a reball setup so I can give this a better shot.  I also acquired 1ghz cpus and some 100fsb 1.4ghz tualatins to tinker with.  The 1GHZ SL53S should be a straight shot, the Tualatins will need interposer.  Gotta figure out how to make them work.

[[DL] Cerbios Bios Mirror [Updated]]

1 hour ago, Thairanny said:

As anyone tried Seagate Constellation drives? They are server grade and pretty cheap on Newegg.

Tried a few - I mainly use the Seagate 4TB baracuda 3.5s (I haven't kept count but between me and client send ins we have orderd about 300 of these  with  100% success but they keep going up in price from $65 they are now $85)

UDMA6 and UDMA5 work fine on these

[rgh 1.2 fat falcon xbox 360 but ?]

Falcon RGH 1.2 / Matrix Glitcher with crystal disabled / Timing file 21

[rgh 1.2 fat falcon xbox 360 but ?]

Yeah sorry forgot not rgh3.  So no boot with dvd is still interference - Gotta try routing cables away from some components that cause this.  Post and CPU are sensitive.

[Original Xbox takes several attempts to boot successfully]

I would check clock cap leakage and trace rot.  These are symptoms of that.

[rgh 1.2 fat falcon xbox 360 but ?]

7 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said:

Yeah you used to need a chip to generate the pulse and I guess they found parts on the board that do basically the same thing. right?

I'm trying to find a video explaining exactly how it works and I can't find one.

I believe they are using the southbridge for glitching

[rgh 1.2 fat falcon xbox 360 but ?]

6 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said:

The RGH hacks and j-runner truly impress me. I cannot believe there is so much precise work done on this. I need to educate myself about how RGH works. I understand the basic idea of what is happening but it would be fascinating to learn more.

Its a voltage glitch attack like switch modchips.  Pretty cool how it all evolved over the years to not need a modchip anymore.  RGH3 2 wires is impressive.  Sucks that Winchester motherboards were not defeated.

[rgh 1.2 fat falcon xbox 360 but ?]

9 minutes ago, Raidernick said:

I've done rgh3 on around 8 trinity boards using a resistor and have never had an issue with them not working or breaking at a later date.

Also there is nothing special about that jrunner it's just the latest version.

Well when you do them in the hundreds/thousands you will run into this.  If you get any back I would check res.  For those of you that don't know - Jrunner extras is beyond special as Octal put love into it and gave us everything all in one.  Example: You cant HDXL or USB XL on older Jr's without manually doing it.

[rgh 1.2 fat falcon xbox 360 but ?]

10 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said:

Crap, I used a resistor on my trinity. Hope it doesn't die  What makes this version of J-Runner special?

If you get any boot issues check that.  Best version bro.  Octal pretty much continued the work.  has all patches, most timnings, etc.  I have issues with the sonus part of it.  For that I load up an older version of JR.

[Harcroft HDMI Encoder]

I had no idea about this one.  Man there's gonna be some serious options in 2024.

[rgh 1.2 fat falcon xbox 360 but ?]

22 hours ago, DARK A said:

i figured it out what the problem was it was cpu rst the alternive one showed in mario video it wasnt working for me i did the one under the xclamp now everything was working untill i connected the dvd now sometimes it boot sometimes it dont and show red light

i think my cable management is  very bad or is it something to do with the dvd ?

and  if its  the cable management can someone  show me a  better management for all the wires ?

This is normal on some rgh 1.2 installs.  Its interference with the pulse waves during glitch cycles.  Can you show some pictures of your wire routing?  Are you using a resistor on PLL?  If you are what value?  Are you using Diode on post?  If so the right one?  Also, what chip and timing file are you using.  Some will behave oddly.  I like to test with dvd re-attached and top case installed.  These 2 will change your glitch values sometimes. 

I only RGH 1.2 phats now since rgh3 can be picky on some phats.

Slims I RGH3 all day and noticed that some trinities will short resistor and you will get black screen at boot until you replace or remove resistor.  Coronas have never done this to me so I've opted to not use resistors on Trinity mobos anymore.

 

Use this J-Runner from Octal450: https://github.com/Octal450/J-Runner-with-Extras/releases/tag/V3.3.0-r2

 

Hope this helped.

[my 1.1 xbox exhaust Fan does not wanna pspin even at 100%]

7 hours ago, herooftheday said:

found the culprid the original replacment fan from the previous owner was open and shorted. 

is there a way to know what died on the board?

You could always pull both ground and + from anywhere on mobo.

[UPDATED 06/02!!!! My collection of custom artwork (_resources) for XBMC4Gamers :)]

2 hours ago, Raidernick said:

It seems like the super mario 64 is already on there by the fact that a lot of applications that have no art will get the art and name for mario 64. It's actually super annoying to have 5-10 apps of mine rename themselves all to Mario 64 and change the artwork every time you update it through the installer... Then you need to manually rename them all and delete the art.

Yeah its kind of annoying.  I got real close to finishing all art but didnt quite finish.  I have some apps and homebrew to do but rest is done

[rgh 1.2 fat falcon xbox 360 but ?]

Use flux.  many brands out there - Kingbo, Amtech etc

This one is legit: (Super cheap, big container and lasts a long time)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/143408532066

 

[Someone is making new Shells]

1 minute ago, lOgIcAl said:

Would bought an orange one, but not at that price. End of story.

Yeah they trippn on price - Bring the price down and you will sell more units.  Molds will pay for themselves then mostly full profit after.  Just my 2 pennies.

[XBOX OG - Halo Clear Green - 16TB - Nemesis dual fan caddy - Leds]

4 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said:

God I wanna do a CPU upgrade before the nation collapses... I'm impressed, Donnie. It came out really well. I would love to see how this next one turns out. Looks like you printed stands and stuck a controller jewel on there?

I may take you up on the cloning.

Danke.  Yeah I used the stl on thingverse and my son scaled it just right so the controller jewels from etsy would fit.  Lemme know if you want the stl already scaled to proportion.  Im california based if you ever wanna clone my 4tb.

 

In clear I have already printed:

Aces 1.4ghz cpu bracket

Make mhz hdmi pieces

Maty Suds led track

Noctua rear fan shroud

DVD Delete

Stand

 

[XBOX OG - Halo Clear Green - 16TB - Nemesis dual fan caddy - Leds]

13 hours ago, Bowlsnapper said:

Folder method! Now THAT"s a HDD I want. Maybe I can buy a clone from you!...

Man... this would probably be fun on shrooms... Or a party. How long did that take to put in and what did you use?

I have cerbios folder setup for stellar builds I do for people and a cerbios cci build for non stellar builds - These are the 2 main setups I do for people 99% of the time.

 

I can clone my 4tb for you anytime for free.

 

Took me a while to figure out leds since I never tried this led setup on an xbox before.  Now that I know what im doing I can crank this style setup out pretty fast.  The custom power on sounds I only had 2 hours or less to spend with it and I will be back to make some cool power on / off sounds and I will catalog what I make and provide links.

 

For the bluetooth led controller there are smaller footprint designs and wifi ones but this one was the best one I tested out of 5 or so models and I really like the bluetooth over wifi due to some wifi models require you to hold a button down to connect and since most clients wont be opening their builds I choose bluetooth

 

Here's parts list of what I used  for led controller, strip, center ring led and sound:

Bluetooth Led Controller:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B17K86HY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1 (These are $10 ish on Ali)

Led Ring: (24 is a tight fight but I couldn't find 30 in WS2812B form, 30s would look and fit better)

https://www.amazon.com/Integrated-Drivers-forArduino-Raspberry-ESP8266/dp/B08PCGGM6G/ref=sr_1_3?crid=IUBRYRL4OW3E&keywords=Sparkleiot%2B24%2BBits%2BWS2812%2BRGB%2BLED%2BRing%2Bwith%2BSM2.54-3P%2BWire%2C%2B24%2BX%2BWS2812%2B5050&qid=1703924969&s=electronics&sprefix=sparkleiot%2B24%2Bbits%2Bws2812%2Brgb%2Bled%2Bring%2Bwith%2Bsm2.54-3p%2Bwire%2C%2B24%2Bx%2Bws2812%2B5050%2B%2Celectronics%2C257&sr=1-3&th=1

 

Sound Module:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N69H0GQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (Cheaper on Ali)

This one was tricky to trigger sounds when powering xbox on.  I figured a funky way of doing it and works but I need more time on this and there are better sound modules with better quality and longer playback times.

 

Note:  Led effects look way better with no dvd or hdd caddy in way as per this video:

Here's next build going down - Goal is also to upgrade CPU to 1.4ghz on this build:

[XBOX OG - Halo Clear Green - 16TB - Nemesis dual fan caddy - Leds]

42 minutes ago, Bowlsnapper said:

Nice Job. Beat me to the install video  Very clean soldering. 

Forgot 128MB in the specs.

... Now what are you gonna fill that HDD with?

Thanks bud.  128MB ram and custom power on off sounds, led strips + led ring.

 

16tb has XBMC4Gamers Dragon 4TB build and I added to it and changed it to start in XBMX4GAMERS instead of dragon at boot.

Dragon is a cerbios hdd - So yeah I got cerbios going with stellar hd+ but had to strip the cci games out and use folder method on this one.

[XBOX OG - Halo Clear Green - 16TB - Nemesis dual fan caddy - Leds]

1 hour ago, PRince404 said:

What's "Leds Bluetooth sound activated"?

Here's the custom power on / off sound: (I did Halo theme) (Need more time to re-visit this)

 

[XBOX OG - Halo Clear Green - 16TB - Nemesis dual fan caddy - Leds]

XBOX OG

Halo Clear Green

16TB

Nemesis dual fan caddy

Leds Bluetooth sound activated

Stellar HD+

3D printed parts

Noctua Fan

[Someone is making new Shells]

1 hour ago, nikeymikey said:

According to the recent post on RetroRGB.com the current estimate for these shells is $130-$145 (£100-£114)!!!!!!

If that is the price then I am definitely out. That's way too much for a shell imo. A max of £60 would be a reasonable price to me. 

Yup 100 hundo - Clears, clear greens and Skeletons are only a little more than this, complete working XBOX and sometimes in really good condition.

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8 minutes ago, NeMesiS said:

 

Available Soon:

Further information to be announced...

He's heating up.

[Debunking MakeMHz]

1 minute ago, Bowlsnapper said:

That's what I'm saying. I just got OX parts to build with and I will be building these as well. My first complete kit will be the nemesis console I have with the HDD caddy kit in it.

 

I know what you're saying, buddy. I do. But I really want to drill home the point that MakeMHZ probably deserves this and that they've earned it. I believe that Karma has been served and that this is a lesson they will have to learn from, basically. If you were talking about a company that had not done things like MakeMHZ has and that people loved and respected universally and by majority, then I would be in full agreement with you... but man,  we all know that MakeMHZ is not very well liked or respected by most people and for good reason. Morality has to count for something, doesn't it? Nem seems much more stronger of character and decency than the people I've seen that represent MakeMHZ. Even that alone is worth noting.

AAAARRG! Enough already from me! I don't wanna hear myself striking keys anymore!

Of course they deserve this.  The lie that putting the chip on Stellar and forcing us to buy the $160 bundle.  Now for $70 ish you can get hd+, parts only (Modchip or tsop still required) means it's cheaper than the older $100 hd+ - I can see Dustin making the hd+ $100 now and the Stellar $60 LOL

[CPU upgrade x10]

8 hours ago, zzattack said:

Small necro-bump on this project. About a year ago I had started to 'delayer' a n64freak interposer for the purpose of revealing its inner layers, allowing me to scan them for reference and potential recreation. Being unfamiliar with KiCAD there was some interest in learning about it, so as a way to build up experience I began to redraw the schematics from the original FriendTECH. This did not take excruciatingly long since it is mostly a point-to-point hookup between the two CPU footprints, with only very minor circuitry added. I completed the schematic, but after speaking with Kekule who had done a similar exercise I did not persue this effort further, since his files would eventually be released.

Then, when the Kekule interposer gerber release was announced 2 weeks ago, I felt somewhat disappointed that 1) I never completed what I started and still hadn't used KiCAD for layout, and 2) neither schematic nor pcb layout files were released along with the manufacturing files.

Therefore I set out to take a stab at resuming where I left off. Initially I overlayed the delayered scans with the positioned footprints and began to trace them into the copper layers. This went well for the 45° angled signals but eventually grew old quick. Later I found a way to convert the Kekule gerber files into editable paths which I could place into the layout, and after annotating them with the correct schematic nets I ended up with a completed board reasonably quickly. This was to be revision 1, yet another clone of the 20 year old design, now with the benefit of having the actual editable design files along with them. Oh, and the useless clock reduction circuit is chopped off.

Now the original design has the major drawback that the BGA footprint is in the corner of the board, which causes one of the original heatsink bracket mounting holes to be covered, and during reflow the uneven distribution of the weight can cause the interposer to tilt/slant during reflow. In the MakeMHZ discord, user 'doom' had flaunted some pictures of his interposer which was not a clone but a full remake. It looked very very clean, did not have the BGA footprint in the corner, and seemed like an overall massive improvement over the original.

My next challenge would be to offset the BGA pads in a similar way. This would of course require that I re-route the entire board. I was told by Kekule that the FriendTECH routing was absolutely next level and despite him having a lot of PCB engineering experience, he could not get the trace lengths to match up within the requirement of 1/10th inch for all of the data lines. This withheld me from taking a stab at it myself. I've done some PCB design up to 4 layers, but never considered myself expert-level, so I expected this to fail quite miserably. After putting my kids to bed at 9pm I sat down and didn't get up until it was fully routed at 3am. In about 6 hours I drew up what I thought would take me weeks, if I could even do it at all in the first place. The result of that was uploaded as 'revision 2'. I later cleaned up some of the silk screen, ensured no silk screen is printed over the vias, optimized the power planes a little bit and placed an order at JLCPCB for  revision 2.1.

The layout I drew up conforms to quite liberal design specs with 5 mil traces and 0.3mm drills and does not make use of via-in-pad technology meaning that to breakout the BGA signals, a small bit of trace is required and via's are placed in the center of 4 surrounding pads. This complicates routing of course since more real-estate is required for every pad. The advantage of using such design specs is that board houses typically start charging extra for smaller drills, so it can be produced very cheaply: there's a $2 for 5 offer on JLCPCB.

The revision 2.1 board looks very messy compared to the aforementioned clean board made by doom. Looking at it closely, he seems to have made use of via-in-pad technology, allowing to directly break out from the SMD/BGA pads into the desired signal layer. Figuring this would take a ton of money to have produced I looked up a quote at JLCPCB and found that the additional premium is very reasonable actually. I'm considering doing another re-route where I'll aim for a really clean layout while making use of this additional capability.

For now, here's the true open source designs: https://github.com/zzattack/xbox-cpu-interposer

 

 

 

Thanks for reading

 

 

Ordering a 50 pack once you confirm these working.  Thank you for the contribution.